Please reduce the recovery time for Valk openings!! | Forums

[My.Insanity]

So i know what you gonna say.. "she already got buffed".. "lol she is f**king OP sweep all the time" and so on..

BUT !!!

Valk is one of the weakest Heros in this game..ofc her attack speed with the first light attack is very good but this is it..
She is the most punishable Hero in this game.. i will tell you why:

Her attack dmg is a joke.. even if you sweep your enemy all the time you need a lot of heavys and light attacks to bring him down.

Her second light attack is much slower then the first one which makes it easy to block or to parry (which stops nearly each combo she has)

Her spear sweep can hit allies too which takes the advantage of disableing the enemy.

Her recovery is so f**king bad that all of the following actions can enable a free GB on her:

BLOCK -> Pouncing Thrust = free GB

Parry -> Pouncing Thrust = free GB

BLOCK -> Hunter’s Strike = free GB

Parry -> Hunter’s Strike = free GB

Doge -> Shield Crush = free GB

Doge -> Shield Tackle = free GB

(While in revenge) you can GB her while Shield Tackle

Parry any attack = free GB

Doge Sweep = free GB

so... i hope this makes it clear.. she has the worst recovery of all heros.. her dmg is the worst of all heros (with conq maybe) and her sweep is the worst disabler
from all heros (compared to Lawbringers Pancake / Shugokis grab or even Conq Shield Tackle)

I dont say she needs more dmg.. i dont say she needs more mixups.. i like all of her tools.. for f**k sake i even think its fine that you can doge or parry everything and give
her a GB... BUT giving the enemy a free GB for just BLOCKING her only opening skills is just total bullsh!t. So please !!! reduce the recovery time from Pouncing Thrust and Hunter's Strike

Please tell me if im wrong... or if i missed a point. If you are 100% sure she is fine as she is go in duel or brawl.. and tell me how it ended because nearly all
of your moves can easily get punished.. so in my eyes the only way to play a Valk in duel is ... turtle.. turtle your self and parry the **** out of every attack..
dont even try to attack the enemy.. maybe you can sometimes hit him with one light because of its speed its a little bit save.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Remove her ability to infinitely stumble me and then you can have a buff.


She can sod off until then.

[Specialkha]

She is the 5th strongest hero. Stop cry.

[My.Insanity]

lol.. infinitely stumble... looks like you guys dont know how to move left or right?

[DrinkinMyStella]

i'm a valk main and she does not need any more buffs, her dmg may not be the strongest but she makes up for that with her very fast light attacks and her mixup. she can open up turtles with a good timed shield crush, her shoulder pin is very rewarding as well although hard to do. blocking speed is nearly as fast as WL and Conq. yes she is punishable if you miss a sweep, shield bash/crush but if you increase recovery time then you will make her the most OP hero in the game.

[Rikuto01]

She has the best combination of speed range and damage in the game.

Of course she has to be bad somewhere. Lack of safety is where that is. deal with it or play a different character.

[My.Insanity]

Lack of safety.... are you guys kidding me? I told you her Moveset, Mixups and Dmg is absolut FINE !!!!

BUT TELL ME ONE HERO WHO GETS FREE GB AFTER A SIMPLE STUPID BLOCK !!!!

Im not even saying she needs reduced recovery time on any other moves... but if you cant use your opening tools because all of them give the enemy a free gb its a joke...

[Rikuto01]

Lack of safety.... are you guys kidding me? I told you her Moveset, Mixups and Dmg is absolut FINE !!!!

BUT TELL ME ONE HERO WHO GETS FREE GB AFTER A SIMPLE STUPID BLOCK !!!!

Im not even saying she needs reduced recovery time on any other moves... but if you cant use your opening tools because all of them give the enemy a free gb its a joke...

Warden.

Pouncing thrust is not an opener. It's a whiff punisher. The other tools mentioned force an unreactable guess on your opponent and if they guess correctly you deserve to be blown up.

She is a character that gambles heavily. If you don't like that, then she would need to be completely re-done from the ground up. There is no way to make her safer and still relatively balanced.

[DrinkinMyStella]

Lack of safety.... are you guys kidding me? I told you her Moveset, Mixups and Dmg is absolut FINE !!!!

BUT TELL ME ONE HERO WHO GETS FREE GB AFTER A SIMPLE STUPID BLOCK !!!!

Im not even saying she needs reduced recovery time on any other moves... but if you cant use your opening tools because all of them give the enemy a free gb its a joke...

Only if the enemy is quick enough and you time your moves correctly.

[Rikuto01]

In high level competition you should always assume the enemy will have proper execution.

Anyway, even so. Valkyrie tends to gain more when she guesses correctly than when her enemy guesses correctly, so I have no sympathy for Valks.