Peacekeeper vs berserker fix | Forums

[marcoalpha1]

Pk is useless vs bk. she cannot block the fast attacks, let alone parrying. And deflect does not stop the bk.

If you attack first the bk dodge and starts, if you wait the bk start and you have no chance.

Look at this
https://youtu.be/oYPBxKH4EkA

Devs, please try it yourself, pk vs bk. I am a rep 12 pk and I am quite skilled and don't spam. Against bk, the only chance is to spam before they get hyperarmor,..

,..very ugly fight

Please look at it and fix it

[Karma_Ghost]

What's this? A peacekeeper complaining about attack speed? Not sure if serious.

[marcoalpha1]

What's this? A peacekeeper complaining about attack speed? Not sure if serious.

Man, try it before replying.

Ok attack speed was fast and it was abused by some players

Now, with the speed reduction ok has no chance against Beserkers even if they are much less skilled than you.

Deflect should break the Beserkers chain and that would balance it again...

Try it for yourself, pk vs BK bot 2

[Karma_Ghost]

If you can deflect you can parry. Failing that, take the first hit and parry the second. Berserker can only chain a heavy off of a light attack.

Offensively, PK can cancel heavies into literally anything else (light, gb, dodge, block/parry). Throw out a bunch of feints/mixups, something will get through. Heavy cancel into gb. If they dodge, you get free stabs. Heavy cancel into dodge stab + light follow up.

[marcoalpha1]

If you can deflect you can parry. Failing that, take the first hit and parry the second. Berserker can only chain a heavy off of a light attack.

Offensively, PK can cancel heavies into literally anything else (light, gb, dodge, block/parry). Throw out a bunch of feints/mixups, something will get through. Heavy cancel into gb. If they dodge, you get free stabs. Heavy cancel into dodge stab + light follow up.

The ok takes time to change Stace, you cannot even block, leave alone parrying.

[marcoalpha1]

If you can deflect you can parry. Failing that, take the first hit and parry the second. Berserker can only chain a heavy off of a light attack.

Offensively, PK can cancel heavies into literally anything else (light, gb, dodge, block/parry). Throw out a bunch of feints/mixups, something will get through. Heavy cancel into gb. If they dodge, you get free stabs. Heavy cancel into dodge stab + light follow up.

And you cannot dodge because the attacks track you, and deflect is not like orochi that interrupt your attack, deflect does not do anything, it just ensure you get the next hit because you are still stuck in the animation.

I am telling you, Beserkers have a huge advantage agaist pk. Not agosto everybody for sure. I play others characters and i have no particular problem with them.

[CandleInTheDark]

PK main, never had a problem with berserkers as a peacekeeper, mind you I rarely have a problem with peacekeepers as a berserker either because most of them want to stand in my face and trade lights with undauntable stance combos which is plain stupid. You are quicker, you can pretty much disengage at will, start using your brain, if he starts flashing white you don't want to be there.

[marcoalpha1]

PK main, never had a problem with berserkers as a peacekeeper, mind you I rarely have a problem with peacekeepers as a berserker either because most of them want to stand in my face and trade lights with undauntable stance combos which is plain stupid. You are quicker, you can pretty much disengage at will, start using your brain, if he starts flashing white you don't want to be there.

Please post something on you tube as a pk vs bk. I would gladly learn from it. When I look it up on you tube pk gets her *** kicked by average bk...even when pk is used by very skilled people. (And that was before the last 2 mods where she was nerfed)

Mind you that trading lights before the last mod was the only (very ugly) way I could win against even high level berserkers. (Although it was very little fun for me to spam the lights and very upsetting for the opponent so I just did it to try a few times and it work very well)

[marcoalpha1]

PK has everything faster than zerker... just parry or block. blocking 2 attacks in a row stops zerker.


edit: was using candle's quote as confirmation of his thought.

Block is not faster than zerker. Moreover 2 blocks don't stop him, and deflect does not either. Parry does but you have to guess what side the zerker is attacking to time it right. See original video on you tube or this one

https://youtu.be/T-JzcWL4t0E

From 18 mins. And the zerker was skilled but he was not aggressive as he should have been agaist a pk

[CitizenPuddi]

Block is not faster than zerker. Moreover 2 blocks don't stop him, and deflect does not either. Parry does but you have to guess what side the zerker is attacking to time it right. See original video on you tube or this one

https://youtu.be/T-JzcWL4t0E

From 18 mins. And the zerker was skilled but he was not aggressive as he should have been agaist a pk

Little trick for dealing with berserkers.

The first attack is always a light, the second attack is always a heavy, third is light, fourth heavy, light, heavy, light, heavy, etc.

The heavy attacks will usually only come from the left or right side, because a top heavy mid-chain ends the chain and is super slow/easily parried.

That said, I do agree that the block recovery needs to be a little faster, as does switching guard stance.

As a berserker main, I've been able to pull off some nonsense that just wasn't fair because some of the slower classes just can't keep up.

Never been able to do it to PK tho, they're far too jump-in/poke/jump back, for the most part.