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  1. #31
    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Yes, but not because Zerker is OP if you consider the community. I will move to him because I HAVE TO if they keep nerfing PK. Just look at the post of kweassa1917.

    I don't know in which bracket you are playing, but in my bracket, if I do ONE mistake as PK, I am at 1/2 or 1/3 HP. LB's, Warden's and Warlord's, who turtle up, completely destroy me regularly. I have more problems with those 3 than with other PK's because they are OPEN to most initiations.
    You have trouble with them because in typical fashion UBI SUPER-OVERBUFFED Lawbys, Wardens have a stupid amount of variety in their offense/ defense, and Warlords are if I'm not mistaken still one of the top three classes. Id like to see Wardens brought down and Lawbys tuned down a bit. I'm not even sure how to scratch the WL tho.
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    Originally Posted by zXSilentAngelXz Go to original post
    This is absolutely ridiculous how are you going to nerf the Peacekeeper like her fast attacks make the Peacekeeper the bleeding makes the Peacekeeper just because people keep complaining because they can't block her attacks thats sad its mostly lottle kids, the Berserkers should be nerfed that is totally unbelievable all that character does is spam. And the hits on the beserker does twice as much damage like what the heck. Oh and don't get me started on the spam with Valkyries please adjust those two instead of adjusting you know the Peacekeeper
    Stay scrubby. PK = S Tier. ZRK = C Tier
    L2P.
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    Originally Posted by kweassa1917 Go to original post
    On this matter, I beg to differ... for the game's crappiest dodge Nobushis... dodging "it's easy to dodge!" skills are always a challenge.
    Hm, not sure if Nobu really cannot dodge a, e.g., Valk sweep. For me it looks like the game just compares the input time for the dodge, not where your Character is exactly. I have dodged Valk sweeps but my Character was clearly still located in the graphical indicator of the sweep. Still it did not connect.

    On Warden Bash though, well, it has the hitbox of a truck. At least it feels like that, and it hurts like that, too. ^^
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    Originally Posted by Jagermind Go to original post
    You have trouble with them because in typical fashion UBI SUPER-OVERBUFFED Lawbys, Wardens have a stupid amount of variety in their offense/ defense, and Warlords are if I'm not mistaken still one of the top three classes. Id like to see Wardens brought down and Lawbys tuned down a bit. I'm not even sure how to scratch the WL tho.
    Then where are all the Threads concerning these Characters? Hm? I can count like 4-5 "PK OP" Threads where LB, Warlord and Warden Mains complain about the PK.

    In the "LB OP" Thread I have found the same guy who complains about PK's all the time (namely Lord Micidial) defending his Main furiously.

    Warden Threads? There are a few, but all the Warden Mains keep saying "it got nerfed, it is ok now!!".

    Then Warlord, the strongest Character in the game right now (wins tournaments, is a supertank with massive dps, self-rez, best throw in the game, hyperarmor, etc), has ONE Thread and that Thread was opened by myself. And guess what, a Warlord Main comes in and defends his Character, but he cannot even answer my questions why one Character should have 4 passive feats to get ridiculous amounts of Defense and Offense.

    So here we are, all those whiners playing their stupidly "OP" Characters as well, complain about the PK but cannot look at their own Character from a neutral POV. That is just human nature I guess. I'm out of this, keep complaining and destroy my Main. I will just switch to the flavor of the month Character as well I guess, more salt to gather!
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    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Then where are all the Threads concerning these Characters? Hm? I can count like 4-5 "PK OP" Threads where LB, Warlord and Warden Mains complain about the PK.

    In the "LB OP" Thread I have found the same guy who complains about PK's all the time (namely Lord Micidial) defending his Main furiously.

    Warden Threads? There are a few, but all the Warden Mains keep saying "it got nerfed, it is ok now!!".

    Then Warlord, the strongest Character in the game right now (wins tournaments, is a supertank with massive dps, self-rez, best throw in the game, hyperarmor, etc), has ONE Thread and that Thread was opened by myself. And guess what, a Warlord Main comes in and defends his Character, but he cannot even answer my questions why one Character should have 4 passive feats to get ridiculous amounts of Defense and Offense.

    So here we are, all those whiners playing their stupidly "OP" Characters as well, complain about the PK but cannot look at their own Character from a neutral POV. That is just human nature I guess. I'm out of this, keep complaining and destroy my Main. I will just switch to the flavor of the month Character as well I guess, more salt to gather!
    Of course they defend their classes. I've played them all, I played Lawby before he got his buff and I don't play him now. Hes ridiculous. There are plenty of threads asking not for a nerf but for a complete rework of Wardens class mechanics because his SB is so stupidly easy to ruin games with. Just because people defend a character doesn't mean its not OP case in point is this thread. You're defending PK but shes still busted regardless.

    If your argument falls to "I cant roll every class in the game" then it becomes moot. There are just going to be some bad match ups. I have an easier time dealing with WLs on Conq than I do playing PK or Nobu. Zerks feint game normally gets me around them but I tend to only focus on one character at a time and that's Conq atm so I cant weigh in on other characters so heavily.
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    Originally Posted by Jagermind Go to original post
    Of course they defend their classes. I've played them all, I played Lawby before he got his buff and I don't play him now. Hes ridiculous. There are plenty of threads asking not for a nerf but for a complete rework of Wardens class mechanics because his SB is so stupidly easy to ruin games with. Just because people defend a character doesn't mean its not OP case in point is this thread. You're defending PK but shes still busted regardless.

    If your argument falls to "I cant roll every class in the game" then it becomes moot. There are just going to be some bad match ups. I have an easier time dealing with WLs on Conq than I do playing PK or Nobu. Zerks feint game normally gets me around them but I tend to only focus on one character at a time and that's Conq atm so I cant weigh in on other characters so heavily.
    It is not about the classes I roll, it is about the opponent I am facing. I had a Raider who beat the sht out of me, constantly Blocking and Parrying my Light's. And then some guys say "it is IMPOSSIBLE to even Block PK Light's". I can say that this is not true. I have seen other people do it constantly.
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  7. #37
    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    It is not about the classes I roll, it is about the opponent I am facing. I had a Raider who beat the sht out of me, constantly Blocking and Parrying my Light's. And then some guys say "it is IMPOSSIBLE to even Block PK Light's". I can say that this is not true. I have seen other people do it constantly.
    I cant really take your word for it, when I watch PC matches it seems easier to block her than on Console. On console its just a guessing game currently but that's not the fault of a PK player and more to do with having half the frame rate.
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    Originally Posted by Jagermind Go to original post
    I cant really take your word for it, when I watch PC matches it seems easier to block her than on Console. On console its just a guessing game currently but that's not the fault of a PK player and more to do with having half the frame rate.
    Playing on PC with 144hz Monitor. Can block other PK's, but still the hate is strong on PC. They even use the argument "banned from tournaments" even though it was ONLY Console Tournaments. Funny idiots... ^^
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    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Playing on PC with 144hz Monitor. Can block other PK's, but still the hate is strong on PC. They even use the argument "banned from tournaments" even though it was ONLY Console Tournaments. Funny idiots... ^^
    My pc bit the dust like half a year ago so I never got to play on PC. Console shes ****ing broken as all get out. They aren't busted across the board but no class is I think. Even the bad ones are annoying as all hell to deal with. I just stomped the **** out of one 10 minutes before typing this up. And they still just backed away for half the fight and tried to find ledges to hit me with a running GB on, when forced into combat they just floundered trying to throw a few lights and zones but never any feinting or creativity. I think the SPEED of her lights is okay for the damage pay out.

    Personally I think they should reduce the stagger from them, because on console at least, the stagger from being hit by her second light means youre almost always going to get hit by the start of the next 2 hit combo, and it just chains forever.
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    Originally Posted by Jagermind Go to original post
    My pc bit the dust like half a year ago so I never got to play on PC. Console shes ****ing broken as all get out. They aren't busted across the board but no class is I think. Even the bad ones are annoying as all hell to deal with. I just stomped the **** out of one 10 minutes before typing this up. And they still just backed away for half the fight and tried to find ledges to hit me with a running GB on, when forced into combat they just floundered trying to throw a few lights and zones but never any feinting or creativity. I think the SPEED of her lights is okay for the damage pay out.

    Personally I think they should reduce the stagger from them, because on console at least, the stagger from being hit by her second light means youre almost always going to get hit by the start of the next 2 hit combo, and it just chains forever.
    Yeah, must be totally broken, that's why they have less winrate on Console than on PC. I'm out, just a pathetic discussion with a salty guy.
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