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Has been already confirmed from a lot of high lvl wardens, that this nerf is the most bullsh1t3 ever done to this game. Basically warden and spam keeper are the same cancer as always, LB is the new passive lord, the only one who was really nerfed is the shugoki, now good luck opening a turtle with a shugoki.


This patch is terrible in my humble opinion, it feels like a trolling attempt, because i was counting on that warden and pk fix.

[Knight_Raime]

Has been already confirmed from a lot of high lvl wardens, that this nerf is the most bullsh1t3 ever done to this game. Basically warden and spam keeper are the same cancer as always, LB is the new passive lord, the only one who was really nerfed is the shugoki, now good luck opening a turtle with a shugoki.


This patch is terrible in my humble opinion, it feels like a trolling attempt, because i was counting on that warden and pk fix.

And a lot of high level wardens have already pointed out the 50/50 he posses is still just as strong still being able to cancel SB and parry 500ms attacks. The 2 major things that happened was the removal of the late SB charge and the spamming of cancel. Both of which were Bull. Oh well I guess you can't switch targets when you're charging SB. oh well. If people think these changes severly hurt warden they probably abused this nonsense and should be ignored.

Plenty of people said before the patch dropped that PK won't change much. all it really does is make light light spammers a bit easier to block or parry. Since good pk's don't really do that and instead light into heavy feint pk is still strong overall.

Also anyone complaining about law right now is probably just bad. sypher who is a well known god at this game uploaded a video on yt showing how both assassins and non assassins can punish the LB block into shove. The light can be deflected by assassins. Non assassins can just dodge the light and get a free GB. If he throws a GB instead of a light yeah that can get you. But it shouldn't unless you dodge early. If LB heavy feints to try and grab you while dodging after his block shove you can tech it.

Sure you can't punish the block shove unless you yourself have a shove like attack. but he was able to do this before. And it gives the law nothing. In my "humble opinion" you and others like you don't know anything and are jumping on the bandwagon of hate.

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And a lot of high level wardens have already pointed out the 50/50 he posses is still just as strong still being able to cancel SB and parry 500ms attacks. The 2 major things that happened was the removal of the late SB charge and the spamming of cancel. Both of which were Bull. Oh well I guess you can't switch targets when you're charging SB. oh well. If people think these changes severly hurt warden they probably abused this nonsense and should be ignored.

Plenty of people said before the patch dropped that PK won't change much. all it really does is make light light spammers a bit easier to block or parry. Since good pk's don't really do that and instead light into heavy feint pk is still strong overall.

Also anyone complaining about law right now is probably just bad. sypher who is a well known god at this game uploaded a video on yt showing how both assassins and non assassins can punish the LB block into shove. The light can be deflected by assassins. Non assassins can just dodge the light and get a free GB. If he throws a GB instead of a light yeah that can get you. But it shouldn't unless you dodge early. If LB heavy feints to try and grab you while dodging after his block shove you can tech it.

Sure you can't punish the block shove unless you yourself have a shove like attack. but he was able to do this before. And it gives the law nothing. In my "humble opinion" you and others like you don't know anything and are jumping on the bandwagon of hate.

So you agreed with all I said, but still tell me I do not know anything ?

Thats curios. Even more curios than not beeing able to start the game

[AKDagriZ]

If you beat other wardens it is because they dont play warden how high level wardens play. Every warden just turtle and then does random shoulder bashes and that is it.

true . turtle warden especially good one are one way fight. whats funny is almost nothing happen during the fight but you are dead.Every time i beat a warden i have the feeling he was just not a good player

the shoulder never been a problem as most of them cancel the second one into a gB so i dont really bother escaping the charge i just wait for the cancel into gb and counter it

[Ryumanjisen]

Devs admitted on live stream that they like lottery and 50/50 will stay. Maybe they will tweak it a little to not spam it too much (LB) but unfortunately they idea of balance is making players guessing.

Welcome to a fighting game, when reading your opponent, and making guesses, is more important than reflexes.

Now, they only need to give all characters some kind of guessing game,to finally get rid of the defensive meta, and this game will have a chance to survive.

[Sonrk]

Yeah the "fix" effected the fully charged SB. They can still spam the fastest uncharged one and it's STILL a guessing game. So they fixed nothing. No good warden ever fully charges it so the change they made didn't really change anything. Much like their "fix" for the warlords headbutt.

[CitizenPuddi]

Welcome to a fighting game, when reading your opponent, and making guesses, is more important than reflexes.

there's a stark difference between reading one's opponent and simply "guessing"

if this becomes a trend they should add "gambling" as a searchable tag that leads to the game in digital marketplaces

[x_Senduko_x]

Warden are the same cancer like before the patch