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[DFQN1]

So you basically changed one thing and the Shugoki doesn't have a 50/50 anymore. It wasn't so difficult, right?
So what is so hard about changing one thing to nerf the Warden's vortex? Take away his ability to cancel the shoulder bash into guardbreak.

And why the **** did you give Lawbringer a "vortex"??

[FootlessRhino]

So you basically changed one thing and the Shugoki doesn't have a 50/50 anymore. It wasn't so difficult, right?
So what is so hard about changing one thing to nerf the Warden's vortex? Take away his ability to cancel the shoulder bash into guardbreak.

And why the **** did you give Lawbringer a "vortex"??

warden is fine now as it is, his vortex just got addressed in this patch. he can no longer feint shoulder bash after charging it for a longer period, so you just have to look out for a quick shoulder bash feint. it's a lot easier to adjust and react to. I do agree with your point on Lawbringer though, nobody wants more 50/50's in this game.

[nagya12356]

LoL no. He is broken as fck. Warden literally dont have to do anything just shoulder bash and the enemy has to guess. Patch helped nothing.

[FootlessRhino]

LoL no. He is broken as fck. Warden literally dont have to do anything just shoulder bash and the enemy has to guess. Patch helped nothing.

it helped A LOT. to be honest, I didn't have that much of a problem with wardens vortex before the patch, but now it's just so easy.

[nagya12356]

If you beat other wardens it is because they dont play warden how high level wardens play. Every warden just turtle and then does random shoulder bashes and that is it.

[FootlessRhino]

If you beat other wardens it is because they dont play warden how high level wardens play. Every warden just turtle and then does random shoulder bashes and that is it.

sure, I'm no pro and opponents I deal with are mostly average or a bit above average. but now, if warden is in your face and is charging shoulder bash, I hit him with lights to interrupt his charge/feint into GB. if he's charging from further away, I just wait until the point of commitment and then I definitely know I can dodge it. after getting punished a few times, they stop spamming it. the patch definitely helped.

[Pride_Of_Purity]

Funny thing is that a warden without a shoulder bash can still be a valuable asset. Said from a warden prestige 7 who hates vortex meta (because I never learned how to shoulder bash like a pro )

[Dude_of_Valor]

Funny thing is that a warden without a shoulder bash can still be a valuable asset. Said from a warden prestige 7 who hates vortex meta (because I never learned how to shoulder bash like a pro )

Exactly. Warden is extremely strong, and can adapt against any foe. The SB is really good, but is not the be all and all in a fight.

[Brologna_Xeno]

I was thinking the change meant they wouldn't be able CGB if grabbed during the narrow window of wind-up and post-dodged animation lock. Practically all long animation lock has GB vulnerability @ the front and tail ends FAIK. That doesn't seem to be the case tho

[Draghmar]

Devs admitted on live stream that they like lottery and 50/50 will stay. Maybe they will tweak it a little to not spam it too much (LB) but unfortunately they idea of balance is making players guessing.