Why SHUGOKI just be nerf(weakened) without forming a complete set? | Forums

[ppu12372]

Warden's Shoulder Bash be nerf, but has other buff on fully-charged Shoulder Bash, why SHUGOKI just be nerf?
then how SHUGOKI versus assassin on 1v1??

If you just want to destroy SHUGOKI , ok you did it

[RoosterIlluzion]

Warden's Shoulder Bash be nerf, but has other buff on fully-charged Shoulder Bash, why SHUGOKI just be nerf?
then how SHUGOKI versus assassin on 1v1??

If you just want to destroy SHUGOKI , ok you did it

LMMFO!! Warden's so called "buff" was a 100 ms decrease to the time he becomes uninterruptable during the shoulder bash charge. His bash/dash/charge is the slowest of all in game. This change is really nothing to worry about. Hardly a buff.

[Dude_of_Valor]

Warden's Shoulder Bash be nerf, but has other buff on fully-charged Shoulder Bash, why SHUGOKI just be nerf?
then how SHUGOKI versus assassin on 1v1??

If you just want to destroy SHUGOKI , ok you did it

Shugoki is nerfed as people are just running around and knocking others over (apparently). The developers have decided this is not a fun way to play a fighting game and if this is how Shugoki players are using the character then they can only blame themselves for what has happened.

I am sure there are other ways to play the Shugoki, just got to find work them out.

[Blasto95]

Shugoki is nerfed as people are just running around and knocking others over (apparently). The developers have decided this is not a fun way to play a fighting game and if this is how Shugoki players are using the character then they can only blame themselves for what has happened.

I am sure there are other ways to play the Shugoki, just got to find work them out.

The charging Shug came about because it was the most effective way. Because there is a less effective way that makes him pretty trash compared to others. They didnt really buff warden, but they sure as hell didnt nerf him like they did Shug. not saying warden deserved a bigger nerf, I think its wrong to completely destroy a heroes playstyle. Ubisoft even put this technique in their training videos...what did they expect.

Instead of killing an entire way people play Shugoki, tune what he does so its more punishable and requires more skill to pull off. Make it cost more stamina, make the heavy deal less damage, make players recover from the fall faster. ANYTHING. But no, lets just take out the one tech thats actually legit and leave in all the other exploited bugs.

[Joseph_2017]

I agree with Blasto95.

They might as well take out his charge period because now it's pointless.

[Kraxers]

Yea It is so unfair that they nerfed shugoki. Just running and knocking or gb which is pretty much same with warden 50/50 that you are crying about was so fair and balanced. It is how for honor suppose to be. Do not fight just run knock them. Who needs reflexes or any other thing when you can just run and knock or gb people? Ubisoft failed so many pro gamers.
Edit: watch any fight after 1:08:00. Aspecialy late ones that is for honor everyone wants to play not some fighting! Duh! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/133252273

[Beetlejuice1686]

I was happy to hear people cant really 50 50 shukogi anymore, it was the lamest thing ever, is he charging or is he gunna guardbreak? U have uninterruptable stance, use it, light then headbutt, even stops pk spam if used correctly, parry, free guardblock, throw em against a wall for a free hug, or hell, fake a heavy into a hug, all effective. Id hardly call what they did to shukogi a nerf, just them stopping bads from being bad.

[Dizzy4213]

All they had to do was either, not allow heroes to GB whilst sprinting, or move the Charge to GB button instead. Thus removing the 50/50 from the charge. Instead, Ubisoft in their great wisdom, decided to nerf it into the ground.

[bananaflow2017]

Yeah same as the other 4...
Just find the One mechanic that u cant parry, hardly dodge and use without a combo to get a free hit.
Abuse this mechanic like hell and when u have no more stamina just Turtle.

Really they had to nerf this! Otherwise u will only see this 5 characters in 90% of ur duell games....
This cant be the Intention of this game....

[CHawkins27]

Pretty sure the shugoki sitting on bridges with environmentals on either side of him and charging down the narrow path, knocking entire teams off the edge might have been a contributor to that nerf. If only they addressed the constant "demons embrace" when getting ganked by 3 players and a shugoki and not being able to do anything about it.