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huh, from what I've read about the patch note they didn't put a cooldown on SB?! Now when you cancel your SB, you go into iddle for a few milliseconds and can't defend yourself anymore. So if someone throws an Attack while you charge your SB, you can't cancel it and block the Attack.Originally Posted by Vordred Go to original post
Depending on how long that iddle is, SB will be useless imo. Everyone will light-Attack you when you do it.
The change about SB>GB is a great one. The iddle... might be too much, we'll see once it comes live.
on the other hand, warden can still spamm SB as much as before, the stamina cost hasn't been changed.
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Warden Main
Lawbringer Second
Shugoki Third.
Don't give an honest damn about the nerf, it doesn't effect in the slightest how I use him. It'll torture some top-tier players but 90% of the Wardens out there don't 'react' they just go down a pre-programmed move set.
1) Light Double
2) Shoulder Bash
3) Light Double
4) Shoulder Bash into GB
5a) Side Heavy
5b) Wall Throw into Top Heavy.
Repeat.
If you ate the light, dodge the first time, if you ate the second light, GBC.
His execution times weren't nerfed, so this soft combo is still as fast as it's ever been. All they did was reduce the Warden's ability to react to opponents who aren't absolute suckers - when I encounter someone like that, I use feints and crush counters.
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The fact Warden can still CGB if GB'd while in SB's initial & recovery frames is disappointing. Just doesn't make sense that they are 'safe' in these frame intervals after committing.
Heck from playing VS Warden as a Shugoki, Shugoki's armor can eat a Conq's Shield Bash and get a guaranteed GB counter. Eat a Lawbringer Shove, get a guaranteed GB. Eat a Raider's sprinting GB, get a free GB. Eat a Shug's OniCharge, get a free GB: and on-and-on etc etc for every other knockback or long recovery attack in the game.
Warden's Shoulder Bash for some reason is not the same, if I eat the SB and GB counter, they can still tech out - even in the 'vulnerable' recovery frames. That's what doesn't make sense to me. There is no other instance that can I think of that doesn't allow a GB punish during recovery.
