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No. it gives you more than enough time, to activate it and succesfully back off, retreat to your teammates.
It was never meant to be a god , ultimate killer mode, what the noobs got used to. Now it's finally working as the devs intended originally, and you must rely on your teammates and teamplay to win.
I'm amazed when gs 108 run into 2-3 people alone , and than proceed to complain about ganks. Those are the people that went to adjust revenge, because they can't learn or are simply not willing to play the game as the way it's mean to be.
Please let's not touch revenge, it's perfect now.
So just because it caters to your likes it is perfect now? - wow, now that's what i call being selfish.Originally Posted by GalIahad Go to original post
No dear, revenge is far from being perfect and definitely needs further tweaking.
I can pretty much handle myself, with or without it, but before the nerf (as soon as you triggered it) people ran off like 2y-old toddlers urging to discover the world, now they will just keep standing in the middle and keep slashing you, like pfff - it's next to useless now, why should i care?
Result: Due to that, now when you are in a 3 on 1 situation, even as a good player, you are more than ****ed.
It doesn't have to be as powerful as before, but it definitely needs some extra power again - unless you like to live in Gankbangerz-town forever.
It's going to take a while for things to balance out and for players to adjust. Since the patch I am running into an awful lot of 108 geared players who don't appear to be very good in a normal fight. To me they are obviously the players who relied on max Revenge gear and now they can't figure out what to do when either Revenge doesn't trigger, or it does trigger but it doesn't let them demolish the entire enemy team anymore.
No matter what side of the Revenge fence you are on, the fact that now when I see several 108 geared heroes on the VS screen I no longer think 'can't touch him, can't touch him, can't touch her ...' has to be a good thing. I was so sick of attacking someone who had just fought someone else, or coming to the aid of an ally who was being ganked, only to have the enemy get Revenge ... as if they were some kind of victim in need of aid, when actually they were the agressor / ganker. This is what many of the people complaining about the Revenge nerf conveniently forget to mention, that it was not all about letting victims survive against nasty ganking people, it was about letting gankers gank with immunity and allowed people in no danger to go on killing sprees.
Why are you in 3 vs 1 situations to begin with?...Originally Posted by Lumina-US Go to original post
Yeah of course, you people are so used to it , it's hard to fall back and regroup with your teammates i assume.
Revenge almost killed the game. It doesn't need the extra power.
Ever played the game on XBOX Mr. know it all? - no?Originally Posted by GalIahad Go to original post
Then let me tell you something - due to the rather agressive playstyle people have there, they run straight at you and you face a 3 on 1 in next to no time.
Yet, you smartasses think, it is always our own fault to begin with - go **** yourself with your git gud comments.
You are missing the point. Revenge, as it was, was a defensive option being treated like an offensive tool to take out groups of people solo.Originally Posted by Lumina-US Go to original post
I have proof of this. Revenge was never meant to make the attacker **** his pants and run away, it was meant to give players breathing room.
Id say that yes it generally is your fault if you are out of position and you are by yourself. Elimination is one where I would argue that it isn't your fault but your teams fault for all dying and leaving you by yourself. Skirmish you can argue too if they are bad spawn points but really that's the only time. If you see 3 guys running at you then you run away, or just in general don't be running around by yourself in a team based mode. You wouldn't do this in any other game and expect the results to be in your favor.Originally Posted by Lumina-US Go to original post
Revenge was so strong cuz people didnt know how to handle it.
At first u needed something like a setup.
When ur Team picks then maybe its not good to be the 4th picking a pk.
U needed something to disable the revenge players.
When i played with my friends (4v4), revenge was not a big Problem.
Revenge triggered valk bashes, shugoki took him up and he was done.
Revenge was far away from being a probplem.
But when u say: Yeah Lets play with 4 Assassins, then u simply got rekt.
I Think it's mostly a question of personal preference. U like ganking? U hate revenge. U like 1v1 and beat the .....
out of the 3 pk's Jumping on ur Head After they ran away in elemination, then u like the old revenge mechanic.
But revenge was NEVER an I win button.
Most people were just too bad to handle it. Most times i got hatemails in Connection with revenge gameplay, enemies even didnt parry me the whole Game......