[UbiSoft] You've reached a crossroad in the Wildlands | Forums

[BuckskinNutria0]

The Narco Road DLC is a piece of garbage. The missions are stupid and the vehicle control is so poor in the game, that the monster trucks are a waste of time. The story is poor and what a waste of money.

[DarkLordDashie]

And let's not forget the DLC they've been releasing in the in-game store. Which most also happens to be nothing that people want. Give us stuff that actually makes sense under the Ghost Recon name. Not ridiculous GTA Online-esque nonsense. There's also the case of how they've been pricing items in the in-game store as well, which is a whole other topic on it's own. But if you're gonna charge that much for what you're selling...you might as well make it good & something that people actually want.

Other than that. Well said!!!

[stefos1]

I have a comment to make..............UBISOFT...WHY DID YOU GO SOFT ON THIS GAME?

I just purchased a lot of your products.....Older products.....................You've disappointed more than just 3 pages of people...........This is the internet.

Straighten out this weak, Mockery of a tactical shooter that I'm glad I didn't buy.

Mediocre games are not worth $60 and surely not $70, 80, 90 for a Gold edition thereof.................Count me out of this game until further notice.

[SoonerOX]

I think realism and a serious tone is what we miss most.

Nailed it. The base game is flawed, but not terrible. The devil is in the details, and Ubi strolled on by without even giving him a look.

[SoonerOX]

Wait... is this a rant because of the Narco Road DLC has been released or GR: Wildlands as the basic concept? I'll tell you, in my perspective this game is not worth to be in Ghost Recon franchise along with Future Soldier, even with upcoming Fallen Ghost DLC would not change anything. I still don't have a full retail game because the close & open beta give me a bad vibe what to expect from this game and sadly I was right. Maybe if they will add new necessary features and fix that damn game I will consider to play it but right now I'm afraid that after season pass Ubisoft will move to another project... I want to be wrong though.

I'm still here watching from time to time to see what will happen eventually but I don't give a f with feeedback anymore. Maybe after a year of support they will change the game to the state that most people will like and then I might consider to buying but currently it's not worth it. I'm still curious, for example, for their changes with no hud options.
Good luck with Ubisoft. You'll need it.

I reckon that the rant is not so much directed at Narco Road, but at the general direction Ubisoft is taking with the release of Narco Road. Instead of giving us more serious gameplay that relates to and builds upon the base game in some manner, they went in the opposite direction.

[kleinestrijder]

Good day UbiSoft devs, mods, community managers and representatives:

This is going to be a rant, albeit a tactful one. I implore you to read it and comment. I also welcome every member of the community to add their own grievances or support of the state of the game to this thread if you feel so inclined

When Ghost Recon Wildlands was first revealed to the public, I thought that I would finally be able to play out my military fantasy in an open and free game world on-screen. I am sure that many other members of this community thought the same. Gaming after all is the near realization of makebelieve. We played your betas and were largely dissatisfied, yet we stuck with you and lent our support and suggestions to the development team on the official forums and on reddit. Logic dictates that you would listen to the segment of your customer base that takes time out of their day to write often detailed descriptions of what they want from this game. These people are the biggest fans of the Ghost Recon series. Not only did they give you their time, they also gave you their money: 60, 70 and 100+ dollars at a time when you released a game in largely the same state as the last beta. I and many others like me have continually been active on your forum providing what is essentially free consultation. No doubt you have paid actual consultants to assist in the making of your game to provide what I suspect is far less advice than your paying customers. Much effort has undoubtedly gone into the creation of this game; none of which goes unappreciated. You may be asking what we were expecting for the cost of a copy of the game and its various editions.

We were expecting a gorgeous world to play in, which you delivered with much aplomb. We were expecting a fair amount of realism, attention to detail and refinement; these things you did not deliver.

I suspect that you did not take into account who the fans of Ghost Recon are. They are generally not your average casual gamer who enjoys and probably expects some whackier game mechanics and content. The ghost recon fan is savvy about firearms; some are somewhat versed in military matters; and many are actual members of military units around the world. They will notice a camouflage pattern that is not the correct shade and that the placement of a firearm accessory is wrong. They know what a tactical or emergency reload is versus an administrative reload. They know what the correct position of a plate carrier should be on the body. They know the benefits of shoot and scoot tactics, and how an enemy would react to it. They certainly know a dumbed down game when they see one. These are just a small number of examples where you have missed and missed badly. I will not go into details such as flight mechanics or the absence of basic tools used to aid an operator in combat, as they are mentioned ad nauseum on this forum and on reddit.

I cannot imagine in what world downloadable content executed like Narco Road would be well received by the core fanbase of Ghost Recon. The basic premise of Narco Road is interesting: deep cover infiltration. It would be easy to get behind that premise, and even easier to love it if it were executed as an actual deep cover mission. Instead what we got is racing, stunt flying, social media followers, no depth, and a rainbow flatus emitting llama bike. Frankly, Narco Road is a nearly unforgivable miss.

I understand that you as a company want to attract a wider audience. I think you did that with the introduction of an open world, but you also abandoned the Ghost Recon traditionalist without which Ghost Recon would have ceased to exist a decade ago by making a mockery of serious subject matter. I highly doubt that your military advisers' consultancy pushed you in the direction you have gone. If anything, you have also made a mockery of them and their sacrifices. Naivety on the part of whomever is making the decisions is pushing Ghost Recon into the abyss.

With the poor execution of Narco Road, you have reached a crossroad with the Ghost Recon series. Give us our game back, UbiSoft.

A - freaking - men guys. This is the exact reason why Narco Road leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Its time to take Ghost Recon seriously!

Made a post myself with some tips and additions to make GRW the game it is meant to be stating the exact same.:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...self-seriously

[kleinestrijder]

You know what I dont care. Im going to post this again!

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...self-seriously

[V.M.R_JaRuTo]

I reckon that the rant is not so much directed at Narco Road, but at the general direction Ubisoft is taking with the release of Narco Road. Instead of giving us more serious gameplay that relates to and builds upon the base game in some manner, they went in the opposite direction.

Okay, that's settled. Now, I'm really curious what Ubisoft will do next after releasing all DLC's. They will try to support GR: Wildlands by a few years or less than year and abandon the game? That's the biggest question what will happen with this game: for good or bad that's another story, it depends on future decisions and how they will react with community.
We'll see.

[F.i.x.e.r]

Okay, that's settled. Now, I'm really curious what Ubisoft will do next after releasing all DLC's. They will try to support GR: Wildlands by a few years or less than year and abandon the game? That's the biggest question what will happen with this game: for good or bad that's another story, it depends on future decisions and how they will react with community.
We'll see.

Take a look at TD Y2, might give you a clue.

[GiveMeTactical]

Yeah, I'd like to point out also that an overwhelmingly large percentage of the problems in Wildlands were telegraphed, pointed out, and critiqued on these forums long before the release of the game. I know for sure that I gave constructive criticism, especially after I was invited to and attend E3 and the separate Ubisoft event last June. Over the course of development, we were presented with these various lines from Ubi staff:
1.) We will pass this along to the development team.
2.) Keep in mind the game is still under development, things can still change.
3.) The developers have a vision for the game, changes will be implemented only if they fit.

We talked about everything leading up to release - the need for realism, loadouts, stealth/social stealth, squad commands, helicopter flight controls...literally everything. All the topics, all of the discussions, were basically for nothing. I've no doubt that the ComDevs and Community reps/managers did their jobs and have relayed things to where they should go, but it seems that from that point forward nothing much seemed to happen.

Again, almost everything people critique about being bad or poorly implemented in Wildlands was talked about leading up to release. Will that change? Can it change? I highly doubt it at this point.

Yep, some of this was even said back in 2015... eloquently or Non-Politically Correct so I am guessing, none of the things the community was asking for were taking into consideration with the vision of the Devs... or should I say with the Vision of their Marketing Dept.? Which is the only vision that carries more wait with the Shareholder!

Their vision was: We know people are stupid and they will buy whatever we tell them the game will be and then we will throw them a little bone to chew on and all will be forgiven... rinse and repeat since 2005

The Narco Road DLC is a piece of garbage. The missions are stupid and the vehicle control is so poor in the game, that the monster trucks are a waste of time. The story is poor and what a waste of money.

The missions are only stupid to those thinking the game was going to be a Tactical shooter with some realism in between.

I have a comment to make..............UBISOFT...WHY DID YOU GO SOFT ON THIS GAME?

I just purchased a lot of your products.....Older products.....................You've disappointed more than just 3 pages of people...........This is the internet.

Straighten out this weak, Mockery of a tactical shooter that I'm glad I didn't buy.

Mediocre games are not worth $60 and surely not $70, 80, 90 for a Gold edition thereof.................Count me out of this game until further notice.

and you actually believe they care that you will be out until further notice if they are already using your money and the money from the rest of you for their next project?

I am sure I will be told that I am totally wrong on this but if we look closely, more if we read in between the lines of the grips of the NR DLC, I am almost sure this were build along the main game and not even after the game was release.

Okay, that's settled. Now, I'm really curious what Ubisoft will do next after releasing all DLC's. They will try to support GR: Wildlands by a few years or less than year and abandon the game? That's the biggest question what will happen with this game: for good or bad that's another story, it depends on future decisions and how they will react with community.
We'll see.

They will do what they do best... Nothing, keep quiet and then hype whatever else they want to sell you and people will love them for it.