Omg, unskillful gank squad everywhere in 4v4s now | Forums

[iiRAINBOW_DASH]

Since the revenge nerf, ppl are playing so scummy in 4v4s. Shugoki and Lawbringer gank squad that travels in 3 or 4 players are steamed rolling through everything to the point where the game is less appealing to me.

I've always qued solo because that's my style and my teammates are low gear scor randoms don't stand a chance against these teams. Thus, it's forcing me to get a pre made 4s squad myself which I do not want to do. Before patch, I was able stand a chance with these scummy and unskillful tactics teams. Now it's almost impossible to win 1 verses 2 or 3 against these teams let alone good players.

Ultimately, I rather have revenge the way it was. Ppl have to take calculated risk before jumping on opponents. Now, it's just why not double or triple team that player because there are no more risk of fighting in advantages. For Honor is no longer fun :/

[Flello]

I never relied upon revenge before, neither did I go round in a 'gank squad'. But I never double think on attacking a revenged player now. They just don't give that element of fear anymore, just glow a little brighter.

Before you'd think twice before jumping in on a teammates fight, evaluate if you could get the kill before revenge kicked in. Now it doesn't matter, there's no fear anymore, they don't dish out enough damage and die just as fast as if they didn't have revenge.

I'd agree maybe it needed a slight nerf. Only trouble I had before was people kicking it off every 10 seconds if they're being ganked. Give it some kind of internal cooldown and it would've been fine in my opinion. Now it's just a pointless mechanic that prolongs your death by about 5-10 seconds.

[CitizenPuddi]

stick with your team

[iiRAINBOW_DASH]

I never relied upon revenge before, neither did I go round in a 'gank squad'. But I never double think on attacking a revenged player now. They just don't give that element of fear anymore, just glow a little brighter.

Before you'd think twice before jumping in on a teammates fight, evaluate if you could get the kill before revenge kicked in. Now it doesn't matter, there's no fear anymore, they don't dish out enough damage and die just as fast as if they didn't have revenge.

I'd agree maybe it needed a slight nerf. Only trouble I had before was people kicking it off every 10 seconds if they're being ganked. Give it some kind of internal cooldown and it would've been fine in my opinion. Now it's just a pointless mechanic that prolongs your death by about 5-10 seconds.

I agreed. Santa on a reindeer sleigh is more scarier than revenge mode right now.

[Antonioj26]

I really don't get this mentality of expecting to win ganks. In most other multiplayer games if you are being ganged up on you will lose! If the revenge mechanic never existed you wouldn't be crying about this because it would be just like every other game.

I still win 2v1 encounters on occasion and it's rare I win a 3v1 but why the hell should i be able to win 3v1 consistently? It doesn't make any sense to punish the players who know to travel in groups and play the game the most effectively. It's not their fault you strayed from your team or your team couldn't beat their guy in elimination. I don't get how anyone can look at the prenerf revenge and say "yeah I just knocked down 3 dudes at once, spammed zone for 30 seconds until they are dead, and got revenge a second time to finish off the final guy. Balance! Skill!"

[iiRAINBOW_DASH]

I really don't get this mentality of expecting to win ganks. In most other multiplayer games if you are being ganged up on you will lose! If the revenge mechanic never existed you wouldn't be crying about this because it would be just like every other game.

I still win 2v1 encounters on occasion and it's rare I win a 3v1 but why the hell should i be able to win 3v1 consistently? It doesn't make any sense to punish the players who know to travel in groups and play the game the most effectively. It's not their fault you strayed from your team or your team couldn't beat their guy in elimination. I don't get how anyone can look at the prenerf revenge and say "yeah I just knocked down 3 dudes at once, spammed zone for 30 seconds until they are dead, and got revenge a second time to finish off the final guy. Balance! Skill!"

I see you are with anti revenge party. Team work will always win whether if it was last patch or now. I'm saying one lone guy against 2 or 3 stood 30% chance to make it alive. Now it turned into a ganking meta. Solo player like myself stands no chance. I don't wanna play with pre made 108's.

[Antonioj26]

I see you are with anti revenge party. Team work will always win whether if it was last patch or now. I'm saying one lone guy against 2 or 3 stood 30% chance to make it alive. Now it turned into a ganking meta. Solo player like myself stands no chance. I don't wanna play with pre made 108's.

Wrong. Prenerf I could run into doubles or triples build revenge and use and unblockable to knock someone down and 1-2 shot them. It became easier to fight groups than to solo fight. Only time it ever became a problem is if a valk, shugo, or lb used their disabling moves but even then you just go for them first and you just killed 3 guys by yourself. Nothing justifies this, nothing.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

I find it funny so many people are mad that they actually have to learn how to play now lol

[Bob__Gnarly]

As someone that solo queues as well, i can feel your pain when you get matched against a premade group working together while you're stuck with low level inexperienced or plain bad players.

It didn't used to be a problem when revenge builds were OP, but now that its been nerfed into the ground you can't rely on it to balance the odds anymore.

Don't get me wrong, revenge builds were in serious need of attention, but Ubi over did it in my opinion. All they needed to do was tweak gear stats, so it didn't pop so often and maybe not hit as hard, but they nerfed every aspect. Now ganking is back in fashion and while a legit tactic, it's not my idea of fun.

I won't stamp my feet about it though, I've already adapted. Just my 2 cents.

[iiRAINBOW_DASH]

I find it funny so many people are mad that they actually have to learn how to play now lol

people that didn't know how to handle revenge complained and whine so they can run gank squad group. They try to avoid 1v1 at all cost? Yeah they are bad.