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  1. #101
    I have to say, Rhodri331, mad respect for trying to have intelligent discussions with the git-gud gank squad crowd. Forum surfers are usually casual players that do not even play the game. Good players had no trouble with the old revenge. I would spam crowd control on them while the rest of my team spammed heavies. I expect most people were just spamming heavies...
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  2. #102
    Originally Posted by RapStylezz Go to original post
    The revenge nerf is one of the best updates we have had till now. All the 4v4 modes are modes where you fight as a TEAM. Are you holding up a zone and you see 2 people running up to you your fight or flight instinct kicks in. You either back up and call for help or you hold your ground and call for help, it is realistic that your not expected to have an easy time going 1v2 or 3. Those who complain that hard about the revenge nerf are those people that loved just 2 shotting people with their prestige 5+ character.

    Idk if something could be improved but as of now I believe this revenge nerf is balanced in a great way right now. It pushes the team work and strategic play, and now I can finally switch up from my prestige 4-5 characters for some new characters feeling more confortable about fighting high prestiges when I try a new char. If you do not want to get ganked, play smart instead of running up to 2-3 people holding a zone. Even now from my experience you can STILL get revenge 2 times if you defend yourself properly, so revenge is not useless.

    I have actually still whooped a LOT of *** with help of the current revenge system as in 1v2's and even 1v3's. Your skill matters more now than your revenge stats which is obviously the right choice. I like the current version of revenge way more. Play smart and git gud
    +1 Exactly this.
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  3. #103
    Originally Posted by RapStylezz Go to original post
    The revenge nerf is one of the best updates we have had till now. All the 4v4 modes are modes where you fight as a TEAM. Are you holding up a zone and you see 2 people running up to you your fight or flight instinct kicks in. You either back up and call for help or you hold your ground and call for help, it is realistic that your not expected to have an easy time going 1v2 or 3. Those who complain that hard about the revenge nerf are those people that loved just 2 shotting people with their prestige 5+ character.

    Idk if something could be improved but as of now I believe this revenge nerf is balanced in a great way right now. It pushes the team work and strategic play, and now I can finally switch up from my prestige 4-5 characters for some new characters feeling more confortable about fighting high prestiges when I try a new char. If you do not want to get ganked, play smart instead of running up to 2-3 people holding a zone. Even now from my experience you can STILL get revenge 2 times if you defend yourself properly, so revenge is not useless.

    I have actually still whooped a LOT of *** with help of the current revenge system as in 1v2's and even 1v3's. Your skill matters more now than your revenge stats which is obviously the right choice. I like the current version of revenge way more. Play smart and git gud

    Agree 100%


    I have said it before and I will say it again.


    Revenge should only give you a CHANCE in a 2v1 or higher situation. Not hand you the victory on a silver platter. Your skill is what should get you a win. Not your gear.
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  4. #104
    Originally Posted by sgtpickles Go to original post
    I have to say, Rhodri331, mad respect for trying to have intelligent discussions with the git-gud gank squad crowd. Forum surfers are usually casual players that do not even play the game. Good players had no trouble with the old revenge. I would spam crowd control on them while the rest of my team spammed heavies. I expect most people were just spamming heavies...
    Can't have an intelligent discussion when most people are devoid of it. But I'm trying anyway. Thanks for the compliments SgtPickles.
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  5. #105
    Originally Posted by sgtpickles Go to original post
    I have to say, Rhodri331, mad respect for trying to have intelligent discussions with the git-gud gank squad crowd. Forum surfers are usually casual players that do not even play the game. Good players had no trouble with the old revenge. I would spam crowd control on them while the rest of my team spammed heavies. I expect most people were just spamming heavies...
    Originally Posted by Rhodri331 Go to original post
    Can't have an intelligent discussion when most people are devoid of it. But I'm trying anyway. Thanks for the compliments SgtPickles.
    Are y'all serious right now?....

    People are giving intelligent valid point left and right... You guys are basically choosing not to acknowledge intelligent points and are just automatically labeling everyone who opposes your views "gank reliant/ git gud" people (Which by the way, could apply to you, people are telling you to "git gud" to fight multiple people and you are telling people to "git gud" when fighting against pre-nerf revenge.. so hmmmm)

    Glad you know the final consensus of how "forum surfers" play the game...

    Having trouble with the old revenge or not having trouble with the old revenge is beside the point. It was being heavily exploited and people didn't have to employ much skill to kill multiple people..
    I myself was never against revenge as it was (except for when it triggered in a 1v1 fight, that pissed me off every time). But this nerf does nothing but help me since I never used revenge as a crutch to win... Also, playing with the new revenge and actually having some trouble against many enemies or being able to team up to try and take out a skilled player was much more enjoyable than the revenge ruled game that it was pre-nerf...

    I read your post and responded to each of your points... How about you guys do the same instead of dodging legitimate points and saying we don't have any intelligence...
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  6. #106
    See it's not just that you cant 1v4 it's just completely useless now. Before it took skill to kill that revenge person. Now I can be at the top of the leader board by just running in a group spamming r2. Its boring and anyone that agrees with this new fighting meta of zergfest r2 spam as skill needs to go play every other button smashing game and leave this one alone. It was unique and now we are left with the same old story. It's no wonder the baddies that couldn't deal with revenge are happy now just sad
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  7. #107
    Originally Posted by xLeapingLizardx Go to original post
    Are y'all serious right now?....

    People are giving intelligent valid point left and right... You guys are basically choosing not to acknowledge intelligent points and are just automatically labeling everyone who opposes your views "gank reliant/ git gud" people (Which by the way, could apply to you, people are telling you to "git gud" to fight multiple people and you are telling people to "git gud" when fighting against pre-nerf revenge.. so hmmmm)

    Glad you know the final consensus of how "forum surfers" play the game...

    Having trouble with the old revenge or not having trouble with the old revenge is beside the point. It was being heavily exploited and people didn't have to employ much skill to kill multiple people..
    I myself was never against revenge as it was (except for when it triggered in a 1v1 fight, that pissed me off every time). But this nerf does nothing but help me since I never used revenge as a crutch to win... Also, playing with the new revenge and actually having some trouble against many enemies or being able to team up to try and take out a skilled player was much more enjoyable than the revenge ruled game that it was pre-nerf...

    I read your post and responded to each of your points... How about you guys do the same instead of dodging legitimate points and saying we don't have any intelligence...
    You should see the other thread where that Rhodri guy is claiming he is immune to bans because he paid $100 for the game and if they did ban him it would be "Theft" and then he would file a class action lawsuit against them.


    I wish I was kidding. lol
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  8. #108
    revenge needs tweaked up some to the middle ground from were its at now, devs just needs to find the sweet spot.
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  9. #109
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    I am extremely happy with the new revenge. I still can still win 1v2 situations(even pulled off a few without revenge at all) and feel very pressured doing so. 1v3 i do my best to keep them occupied before they take me down and it feels very right. I find revenge's current state incredibly satisfying and very much improved.
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  10. #110
    thats cool i just think revenge is a bit weak and needs buffed a little bit not to god mode or anything just enough to balance things out a tad for god players and newbies and still keep that addictive fun factor it gave off imo.
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