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[psyminion]

I personally prefer old revenge as I felt it made the focus on smart play not strength in numbers.

it never should have been available in 1v1 fights, and sometimes it was exploited by skilless noobs but I felt it was exciting.

now if I get revenge I just die 8 seconds later after the Lawbringer tosses my pancakes and his buddies chop me to pieces if I don't manage to sprint away (and I'm sure the *****ing will start about that soon enough).

imo nerfing rev damage and duration would have been enough. the old defense buff was a-ok with me.

just my 0.02

[That_guy44]

I 1v2 people quite often in brawl and win. Maybe people don't know how to utilise revenge? People also know how to deal with revenge. Valkyrie can single handedly deal with revenge by knocking the opponent over with shield bash. I don't think I noticed a change in revenge to be honest.

[Harry_S._Houle]

I think the main problem what ppl have with revenge is that they think its a super sayajin mode. Even the game tells you that its just a small help for survival. Small help ! When you are always outnumbered and have trouble fighting against more than 1 guy maybe you are doing something wrong and not the game mechanic. It is always the easy way to cry about nerfs and even easier as a group but face the reality revenge mode is not a I WIN Button. Revenge is not useless, almost everything works like pre patch, Headbutt, Sweep etc Knockdown into 100% Heavy spam. Light Spam Pk or charged moves you just die faster and dont one shot everyone anymore.

[Robsket]

It's funny how you all Revenge spammer are tilting now. NO MORE AUTOWIN GUYS.

[CitizenPuddi]

teamwork is hard

[Aidames]

Kweassa1917, I like it how people hate on you because you actually make sense.

[JohnWick87]

Revenge is still a strong mechanic in the game and let you survive against multiple enemys. Even defeat them ! but its not meant to destroy 4 guys at once. And thats good. But still possible

[DuhSavagePickle]

After playing for a week now with the the new revenge system, I can safely say they over nerfed it. Now its next to unless in any 1vX fight. It does not last long enough or give enough defense to hold a point for an ally to arrive and even the fight. You cannot even run away now because of the run speed nerf. The way it is now they should just remove it. Revenge was easily overcome with a teammate just spamming guard-break but now it does not matter just spam attacks. Revenge was only good in 1vX with classes with knockdowns or fast zone spammers not all classes. These new changes just promote ganking. If you like ganking then you will like the new revenge system. If you do not like ganking play versus AI, that way you do not waste 10 minutes staring at each other because of how OP parry is.

It's not useless at all? I can show you videos of me winning 1v2 and 1v3 fights if you would like.

I'm on Xbox ONE

[Knight_Raime]

Well there is your problem. You think stats should be winning the fights for you.

[RoosterIlluzion]

...you suddenly lose your ability to defend when revenge fires up?

Revenge does exactly what it had done. Boost your defense to increase damage resistance, gives you a shield to absorb some damage, increases your damage output, and unlimited stamina and UI state (except against certain UBs).

So I'm not getting any of your problems because my brains, wits, and hands still work when revenge fires up.

I think it's about good time you remember you're not obligated to give up all defense and attempt heavies and zone spams like a crazy person just because you glow orange. Increased defense, temporary shield, good time to mitigate some damage and look for the opportunity to back away...


The problem you have is not with revenge.

The problem is you've been accustomed to that broken shi* for so long that you don't even know how to defend yourself. Who needs defense or positioning when you can fire up revenge back-to-back for about 8 times in 2 minutes for 10 seconds each with only 5 secs downtime in between, and basically 2~3 shot anyone during activation and receive like a snot-sized damage even when getting hit by heavies?

So when all that cloud of superiority goes poof, up in smoke and what have you got left?

-- pride and ego that still clings onto the old days when you could 1v3 people with one hand tied behind your back
-- disregard for even most basic of tactics
-- inability to observe the radar, look around the environment
-- zero awareness and inability to assess the situation and dangers of fighting superior numbers
-- target fixation
-- awkwardness toward defensive actions and range-control
-- poor positioning
-- uncontrolled and wild swinging in hopes some of your attacks will hit, since before 1.05, no matter how many times they hit you, you only need just mash the attack button and those some hits will kill, and you know you will still win.


That's your problem here, not revenge. You'd see it if you just swallowed that pride and look at the reality of the fight that surrounds you. You're not a superman, nor a movie hero. You're just one combatant among eight, and two people are stronger than one, and three are stronger than two.

I see, so after you wiped ubisoft ***z from your chin, you believe revenge mode is to "look for an opportunity to back away." Run away? You're ****ing mad. Ubisoft CREATED revenge mode to boost damage and defense so you could fight against 3 or 4 opponents. It's been the point of it since conception, through alpha and beta.

Little ***** players complaining about people getting revenge every 10 seconds is what caused the nerf. It worked fine, yet to them it was op because they didn't know better than to gank someone. Everyone knew what revenge mode was, and did when the alpha & beta were live. So it's those players that don't know how to fight. You're probably one of them.