Will shugoki ever get nerf | Forums

[DitosX]

Its so hard to fight agaings shugoki. Not specificly the attacks but the bear hug and sprint pushes.
The bear hug just destroyes players. I understand that he has slow attacks, but that damage is just massive.
Not to forget that Health pool.

[DraxeI]

Yeah, they're definitely looking into it.
They addressed part of the problem in the latest Weekly Update:

Q. The Shugoki's "Charge of the Oni" sees a lot of use in team modes due to its low risk - high reward. It has almost become a necessity in tournament games. Are there any plans to change how this mechanic works?
ROMAN: Yes it will be fixed soon. That move is way too powerful, it was supposed to be a disrupting move on the fringe of the Shugoki kit, not his core move.

[Ontari]

Man... Demon's Embrace (bear hug) is not only extremely risky (if shugo miss it, he's losing massive chunk of health), but also extremely easy to dodge and punish. Well, unless you are thrown at the wall before, but I've seen people actually getting away from that.

As for the Charge of Oni, this is really pathetic to look at, but to be honest I only sawy it in the tournaments. I'm levelling up Shugo right now, and charge is real sweet on bridges and near ledges, but I never use it in a fight as it is just unhandy for me. They definitely have to nerf it in some way, but for me, "cleansing" option for bridges is a must - it is the only character with such capabilities (maybe warlord also). Just make some stamina cost at start to stop spamming it during the fight.

[CandleInTheDark]

By the Warrior's Den they are fixing it next patch. Two and three weeks for pc and console respectively

[AKDagriZ]

there is one thing i would like to see removed from shugoki .After a demon embrace if that didnt killed you , you will be throw on the ground and he still have a window for a free light attack while you get up your feet. isn't it a litlle too much ?? and a loss of time because you will die anyway if the demon embrace didn't killed you at first .

If the demon embrace didnt killed me please let me overcome !

[KjotoSamurai]

Unfortunately there is a plan to get Oni Charge somewhat degraded.

But so far Shugoki does not need any decrease nor degrade. If you cannot fight Shugoki, you can only blame yourself.

My suggestion is to find someone playing shugoki, request duels, ask for tips and learn.

[Blasto95]

Demons Embrace is punishing and slow enough as it is. Its a strong move but that is and should be his feature move.

Charge of the Oni in my eyes is simple to fix. Make it more punishable, right now if Shug misses his target, he can usually just keep charging away from danger. People wait until they actually see their opponent fall to stop and hit them. Make the range of the heavy attack after the charge much shorter. This way it is more rewarding if you charge -> Cancel -> Heavy, not nearly as easy as it is now.

[Felis_Menari]

Charge of the Obi is going to be dealt with, although we don't know how yet. What I really wish is for Demon"s Embrace to lose its health loss/gain and insta-kill properties, but I imagine the devs feel that they should remain since the Shug takes extra damage once his hyper armor is down. My response to that; play smart, not reckless. Players easily get wrecked that way, regardless of character. The Shug shouldn't be able to ignore that just by getting a wall stun or knockdown.

[RenfieldX]

Man... Demon's Embrace (bear hug) is not only extremely risky (if shugo miss it, he's losing massive chunk of health), but also extremely easy to dodge and punish. Well, unless you are thrown at the wall before, but I've seen people actually getting away from that.

In general, Demon's Embrace is fine. The risk vs. reward is fine as it's pretty easy to dodge, which leads to a significant health loss. They should lose the instant kill property when the Shugoki is at low health though, that's just cheap and unnecessary. I also think that they should speed up the animation once they pick you up - in 4v4 you're up in the air far too long wide open to other enemies attacks on top of the damage from the embrace.

I'm not sure what the best fix for Charge of the Oni would be. Maybe loose the hyper armor when charging so that you can be attacked out of it?

[Vordred]

that run does need fixing, and the one shot off demon embrace is just pure BS. no hero should have a one shot kill move.