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  1. #1

    What do think about honour?

    I am severly interested on what other players think about honour in FH.
    This is merely an observation for my own interests.

    Just a quick review from me:
    I try with all of my power to see that everyone has a decent fight. My battle-mates think that I show to much honour and politeness during battle, which is true.

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    If you have the time to write your personal thoughts and opinions about honour in FH, it would be very appreciated. Thank you.
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    I think it's silly to expect your teammates to sit by and watch in their own personal 1v0 while you duel. Like... srsly, just select duel if that's what you want.

    It's fascinating just how much salt has been generated by the concept of honor in this game, tbh.

    Anything that significantly increases the chance of a loss for the team (refusing to revive because honor, not using the environment because honor, gimping yourself and your team in any way because honor) should be considered griefing, imho.

    Just a few of my thoughts.
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    Griefing? Wow... is it that bad?
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    I think it's a shame misinterpretations of the title of the game have caused so many people to abuse so many other people in the name of honour, the absence of it, playing without it ... when basically we all came here to kill each other. I've been killing people in online games for a looooong time and it was not a consideration before. The title has a lot to answer for.

    This is the first PvP game I have played where half the playerbase are tripping over themselves to bow and scrape to an opponent who will be cutting their head off a few moments later.

    It's fascinating really, to see the conflict this causes, the environmental kills dilemna, should I or shouldn't I ... the helping a team mate dilemna, people more worried about being nice to their opponent and showing them respect than protecting their friend or even winning the match.

    Fancy displays of etiquette and ceremony are not my thing, and I don't believe they are supported by the game, it's campaign, or it's characters.

    Remember folks, it's important to be a polite Raider ... well, right up until the part where you yell "I'll tear you to pieces!" at your foe before cutting their head off ... they'll remember you bowed at the start as their headless corpse is buried, I am sure
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    Sure. I know everyone has their own honor code, and a lot have none (which is fine, whatever floats your boat) but ive generally started gravitating toward a certain playstlyle, just because I find it fun!

    I play mostly dominion, untill ranked comes along, and I do have a fairly high K/D, in the top 3% at 2.72

    --I dont gank 1v4 ever, and ill only 1v3 if the enemy happens to be extremely good and generally beating 2 of ours, but still I rarely 1v3 someone.

    --If I see very new players or really unskilled players I dont 1v2 them unless my teammate is about to die to them.

    --If I fight unskilled players where im basically going to win, I dont ledge them and I dont hit them on the ground.

    --At the end of the round when the enemy team is in last stand, I dont use feats to kill them, and I dont gank them.... unless were also in last stand, then anything goes.

    --If im getting ganked, even by 2 noobs, Ill do anything and everything to come out on top.

    --If I get revenge in a 1v1, I dont use it unless I started with almost no health compared to them.

    --If another played decides not to gank me, ill repay the favour.

    --I dont hit people who are emoting.

    I dont care if people play by "honor" rules or no rules at all, but these are the ones I find myself sticking to just because thats how I like playing...

    BUT IF YOU HIT ME WHEN IM EMOTING A SALUTE ILL THROW YOU ALL THE WAY TO LOTHRIC, DEUS VULT!!
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    Originally Posted by React_DragonZ Go to original post
    Griefing? Wow... is it that bad?
    It can be.

    There are a lot of people that will deliberately throw a match by putting themselves at a disadvantage and gimping their ability to help the team win because of their personal code of honor or whatever.
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    Honour is an abstract word and a non-profit motivation,

    No one ever won any war by being a polite and honorable gentleman, the goth, teutonics, vandals, huns, romans, even japanese were fierce in battle, they won their war by being savage and ruthless, it is in the human nature, even in a virtual world, you need to be ruthless to win

    honour is like a minigame and a role playing story, whoever use it will probably lose the match but will be a good actor in an in-game movie scenario
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    It is not honourable to allow someone to cut your teammate's head off,to allow your teammate to die when you could prevent it or to let them bleed out, which is effectively what refusing to revive someone who is not yet dead is, when you could help them. If you want to bring real world ethics codes into it, that is real world reality.

    If someone makes clear they want to move somewhere without enviro-kills, I will follow them, the moment they try to to guardbreak when we are near a ledge everything is on the table (I prefer to kill them by my own sword but eh I will take it).That is a duel where it affects only me though, as soon as it is two or more everything goes. I will kill you and spin over your body proclaiming I am 'the best' (love that peacekeeper emote), I am certainly not going to bow and scrape to you for the opportunity to do that.

    And I am with Gray on the title, the moment someone says they want deducted points and kicking from game for treating a team pvp like a team pvp because the title has honor in it, the title has a lot to answer for.
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  9. #9
    I show honor until the other team shows they have no intention of showing any.

    Depending on how bad the other team is about it I have left games over it.
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    UbiJurassic's Avatar Community Manager
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    Honor is always an interesting discussion here on the forums. Many players come from other games, such as Dark Souls, where fighting etiquette has become well established and refined over the course of several years. With For Honor being a new title, we are certainly interested to see how For Honor's community develops definitions for what is honorable and what is not.
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