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Shugoki is currently cancer with his "Charge of the Oni" abuse. I just played a few dominion matches with no less then 3 Shugokies and most of the time they were on the same team. Would you like to guess the move they spammed? It wasn't fun. Why play a game that's not fun? So until he's fixed I have to not enjoy my time playing this game or play vs AI. He needs a hot fix asap and not in 2 weeks.
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Charge of the Oni may very well be the most broken move in the game, currently. It's going to be modified; there's no getting around this.Originally Posted by IDreaml Go to original post
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All anyone needs to do to avoid the charge is to roll to the side. I can't avoid warden's charge, and if you're up against a wall vs a conq and he's shield charging.... You're basically in an infinite loop of drained stamina and eating heavy blows. Shugoki literally is limited to about 3 moves. He has no mixups except ones that people can read from a mile away. He's basically a counter character at this point. Short of being psychic and parrying some characters who's attacks are lightning fast... The charge is literally all he has to save himself. Nerf the charge and he's useless.. Maybe he'll land a light here and there but ultimately any player with common sense could just read those and parry without effort. I'm seeing people who play warden and valk complaining about Shugo and I honestly cannot believe it. Warden has god mode basically, and valk is like a ticking time bomb where if you make 1 mistake you're on the floor eating spears.... But shugo's run in a straight line and do 1 heavy if you're lucky enough to land the charge is too much? lol?Originally Posted by UbiJurassic Go to original post
When is warden losing his shoulder charge?
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Originally Posted by D4rkgrizzly Go to original post
Dominion mode as a whole, in fact any mode that allows people to gang up has been nothing but cancer for as long as the game has been out. What is the difference between shugo's charge and wardens shoulder bash? Or lb's shove? Or warlords headbutt? Or valks/conq's shield bash? You're getting ganged up on and that's that, it's not shugo that makes it not fun it's the fact that you're getting gang raped. Another thing I gotta point out.. Every character has a revenge mode... Shugoki doesn't. He's literally useless in revenge mode because all his moves are slow as ****. Whenever I get revenge I basically only use to to ward off being killed for a second longer.. And if I try to attack, parried. Too slow to be effective...
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I suggest all these complainers about Shugoki actually try him out. Don't spout the meme "b-b-but he won ... uh... tournies" People who play in tournies are basically robots, they aren't normal. To mark shugoki as broken because some cyborg won a tournament, which he could of done with any character doesn't mean a damn thing. Play shugoki, tell me how "godlike" you feel. I bet you'll play him once, rage out of the match and never play him again.
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So, despite that the Shugoki has higher stamina usage, risks taking extra damage, and is the slowest moving character in the game, people still whine about him being able to instakill them when he's at critical health levels. Meanwhile, Wardens can shoulder spam you, Conqs can shield spam you, Laws can shove spam you, Berzerkers have endless chain attacks that cause no stagger when blocked, Valks can sweep spam, Warlords can run you across a football field with their throws on top of being the tankiest hero...but no. The Shugoki's critical damage instakill move is what requires immediate attention right now.
Most of the Dominion games I play, if I can stay in them, never have any Shugoki in them except when I play him. So, where is this Oni Charge spam coming from?
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Preach. Theyre only crying nerf because they encounter trash shugoki players that rely on oni charge free hit. I main shugoki and I hardly ever use oni charge because it's high risk and eats half your stamina. We literally have 1 combo... light/heavy into headbutt...Originally Posted by Flyin Japman4 Go to original post
Also to those who complain about shugoki embrace... omg... shugoki is a disabler for a ****ing reason. See someone in revenge mode decimating your teammates? Hug them. It's a good team play technique to have your team mates destroy the person on your back. It also is an extremely high risk move because you are vulnerable to any and every hit including friendly hits while they are on your back. I can't tell you how many times I've died to hits because I was helping my teammates kill a revenge player. I'd rather sacrifice one of my lives for 2 or 3 of my teammates because of a revenge player. Aslo if you miss an embrace, either you're dead after you get punished or you're putting yourself in a hole with low health. God I can't stand these babies moaning about every ****ing thing that kills them. Might as well ban every hero because they kill you. Smh.
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You do realise, in Dominion, situations where you fight 1v1 and then, before you can end the fight, either a teamate or another enemy joins the fight. The problem with Shugoki is his ability to VERY QUICKLY end the fight when he joins his teamate. Locked on someone else, a player facing an incoming Oni Charge Shugoki will very often not be able to dodge the charge and will eat 2x Heavy Attack while standing up.All anyone needs to do to avoid the charge is to roll to the side
There isn't a single character in the game able to "join a fight" and "finish the fight" as quickly as the Shugoki. It's nuts and quite annoying. The whole revenge idea was made to give the solo players vs 2 opponent a chance. Oni Charge + 2 Heavy will not build your revenge at all and will not allow you to properly try to defend yourself. It's too one sided.
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All I see in this post is Shugoki main claiming their character is not OP. Lol get real, i have a hobby grinding every char into rep 3, I finished 4 characters, jumping into Shugoki, easily rekt people with charge and environmental kill and cheese. I have no intention to play an OP *** character so I drop him instantly after 1 day trial.
People have to accept the fact that Shugoki is king of cheese, easy to play, low risk high reward.
Final words: get real, people
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So using an attack that takes half your stamina and a 3rd of your life if you miss is low risk 😂Originally Posted by Wateverdude Go to original post
