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    me personally cannot care less if PvP is implemented or not
    most bad example how NOT to do it is The Division and their failed social xperiment
    whtever they give us here i just hope its not interfering with PvE in any way
    the more time it takes maybe the better it gets,who knows.so take ur time Dev's
    sayonara
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    The Division isn't in the same league as Ghost Recon.
    They both may look similar because of being 3rd person and having a cover system. But The Division plays like an RPG. You need to deal 400,000 points of damage to kill your opponent. Which gets frustrating because by the time you drop their HP from 400,000 to 0, the enemy can heal themselves 10 times. Running around like a headless chicken with self heal and ally heals...
    And just because The Division had the Dark Zone where it was PVE&PVP in the same map does not mean it is going to be the same in Ghost Recon. So calm down.

    In Ghost Recon if you don't actually take cover and decide to run around like a chicken the way you do in The Division, you're going to get killed pretty quickly. Which is good.
    Blizzard took out PvP from which game? If you're referring to Diablo3, again that's an RPG and a totally different game genre. They made a good choice to remove PvP. But now they keep releasing higher tier gear and weapons to keep players grinding and grinding to find more loot. Ghost Recon is not an RPG and we aren't going to run around killing enemies so they drop loot to upgrade our boots so we can run faster.

    If you don't enjoy PvP it's as simple as playing the single player mode and not going into PvP.
    But don't come in here saying the game doesn't need PvP just because you don't enjoy it yourself. Or you're bad at it.
    You can't compare a shooting game where you die in 1-4 shots to RPG games where you need to inflict damage over time to kill enemies and run around collecting loot. They are two different sports.
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    Originally Posted by mezzatron Go to original post

    If you don't enjoy PvP it's as simple as playing the single player mode and not going into PvP.
    But don't come in here saying the game doesn't need PvP just because you don't enjoy it yourself. Or you're bad at it.
    You can't compare a shooting game where you die in 1-4 shots to RPG games where you need to inflict damage over time to kill enemies and run around collecting loot. They are in two different sports.
    Exactly.
    You got your pve..but try and prevent us that like pvp, to get it?

    And to the moron mentioning blizzard decided to not add pvp...umm..heard about overwatch? No? That game is VERY popular... and it's pvp.

    Go figure huh?
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    Originally Posted by bent_toe Go to original post
    Exactly.
    You got your pve..but try and prevent us that like pvp, to get it?

    And to the moron mentioning blizzard decided to not add pvp...umm..heard about overwatch? No? That game is VERY popular... and it's pvp.

    Go figure huh?
    Was talking about Diablo [removed]! Even said that in my OP.
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    I believe I said I was not attacking anyone, so allow me to reply to some of the comments made here. Note: these forums have not changed a bit, still a lot of know-it-alls running around.

    Originally Posted by Jandaime Go to original post
    I'll tell you exactly why. It's for those who are competitive, and who need to measure their skills up against the best. You think you're good? Only PVP is the ultimate test.
    I'm sure the lot of you are either close to beating this game by now, or have already completed it. PVP will always be the end measure of how high your skill is
    The need to measure your skill. Well, everyone has his own definition of skill. I consider skill someone who can handle himself quite well in a PvP setting while playing as part of a team. Nowadays "skill" is mostly involving camping or rushing and having the highest amount of kills and the highest K/D ratio ever.

    Nowadays people think teamwork is running around like an idiot for one purpose only, kills. If that sort of gameplay is what you call skill, than I gladly invite you to try something like ESL in a real teamwork oriented game. Good luck with that, I'm sure you would find it too boring or don't even know what to do. THAT dear sir is what I am talking about. THAT is the type of game play I am involved in almost every day. AND NO I did not expect this to be in Wildlands but considering what it tries to be I think it would be nice to have that. THAT is what this is about to me, dear sir.

    To each his own of course, but I've been playing games online since 1999 (in both PvE and PvP setting) so I do see why people play it, but Ubisoft never made any PvP game modes that were worth playing for more than a week. Skill involves more than the average joe having the highest amount of kills, but hey, something other than that takes people way too much time so it seems so it's kills what it is all about.

    Originally Posted by mezzatron Go to original post
    I wasted my time reading all of that stuff he wrote and didn't want to waste anymore writing a reply.
    You're trying to explain the colour red to a clolour-blind person. He won't understand.

    Ghost Recon has always had multiplayer and Ubisoft multiplayer games aren't that bad as he seems to be drawing conclusions from his own sour experience.

    As long as they have;
    - Good netcode;
    - Good multiplayer servers;
    - Ban hackers on time;
    - And introduce some exciting modes other than just 4v4, it will be great.
    - 8 v 8;
    - 4 v 4 v 4
    - Battle Royal game modes
    - Capture the Point etc...

    Ghost Recon multiplayer isn't like COD or BF. It's not focused on TDM. It should be fun.

    Anyone who doesn't want PvP is free to keep playing the PvE mode.
    May I remind you I have been playing PvP for over 20 years already? Since 1999. And that I played many many different game modes? And many many different games? So yeah, you can shove your colour blind remarks, and the fact I don't understand because you can't be bothered to see the real reasoning behind what I wrote, up your arse for all I care. I was probably already playing online when you were still in diapers.

    I think I know enough about playing MP. Maybe even more than you think. So before you open your mouth and release BS about me you better read things more carefully. Thank you.

    Sour experience? You really can't read do you? I said the game modes were crap. How I performed there, or how my experience has been, is none of your business because it's irrelevant. Learn to read and see the reasoning behind what I wrote or next time just skip my posts. So here's a tip, if my post was such a waste of time to you feel free to skip it next time you see one. And, just so you know, since you think my post is a waste of time I will not waste anymore time on yours either.

    Originally Posted by Ghost416 Go to original post
    I can't count the number of threads I've seen on here made by PVPers complaining about no PVP ... and PVEers are the ones that like to rant?
    Bent toe [removed] no time to read between the lines.

    And to others saying all sorts of things I didn't mention, I never even said PvP should not be added. I gave a suggestion of what I feel would be a nice twist to it. Learn to read. Or shut up.

    This forum is still full of idiots so it seems. Reminds me of why I hardly post here anymore. Once they read something they don't like they get personal. Tada! Go fall off a log already.
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    Originally Posted by metalgearso1971 Go to original post
    May I remind you I have been playing PvP for over 20 years already? Since 1999. And that I played many many different game modes? So yeah, you can shove your colour blind remarks, and the fact I don't understand because you can't be bothered to see the real reasoning behind what I wrote, up your arse for all I care.

    I think I know enough about playing MP. Maybe even more than you think. So before you open your mouth and release BS about me you better read things more carefully. Thank you.

    Sour experience? You really can't read do you? I said the game modes were crap. Learn to read. Anyway, I find you are a waste of time so I won'ty be spending anymore time on you as well.

    And to others saying all sorts of things I didn't mention, I never even said PvP should not be added. I gave a suggestion of what I feel would be a ncie twist to it. Learn to read. Or shut up.

    This forum is still full of idiots so it seems. Reminds me of why I hardly post here anymore. Once they read something they don't like they get personal. Tada! Go fall off a log already.
    You surely sound pretty mature, are you going through menopause? Because you sound pretty butt-hurt.

    If you've got 20 years of PvP experience and you've noticed that The Division has the Dark Zone as a PvE-PvP mode, what makes you think Ghost Recon PvP would also have mixed PvE-PvP? In your 20 years of experience how many games have done this? You clearly aren't very bright are you.

    Enjoy PvE and don't step into PvP cause you will be raging and coming to the forums to complain using all sorts of profanity like a little man child.
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    Well, this reply shows exactly what I thought of you. Again you show you do not have the brain capacity to grasp what I was saying. Again you and your pea-sized brain assume things I never even said. And most funny, you try to talk down on me so you can feel better about yourself. After all your view on PvP is the standard, you are the Wizard of Oz of PvP.

    As I told the other guy, you are definitely a waste of my time and I do not waste my time. Butt-hurt? Again another juvenile nowadays term. But to answer your otherwise totally irrelevant question about it, not at all. I don't really give a f about what people say to me on the internet because when it comes down to it, they are only insulting themselves. But since you're so hot on the topic, I was replying to some people who decided to attack me while I didn't even hint at attacking anyone in my original post. So, who is the one being butt-hurt here? Go play your precious PvP and don't waste my time.

    Buh-bye!
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    Originally Posted by metalgearso1971 Go to original post
    Well, this reply shows exactly what I thought of you. Again you show you do not have the brain capacity to grasp what I was saying. Again you and your pea-sized brain assume things I never even said. And most funny, you try to talk down on me so you can feel better about yourself. After all your view on PvP is the standard, you are the Wizard of Oz of PvP.

    As I told the other guy, you are definitely a waste of my time and I do not waste my time. Butt-hurt? Again another juvenile nowadays term. But to answer your otherwise totally irrelevant question about it, not at all. I don't really give a f about what people say to me on the internet because when it comes down to it, they are only insulting themselves. But since you're so hot on the topic, I was replying to some people who decided to attack me while I didn't even hint at attacking anyone in my original post. So, who is the one being butt-hurt here? Go play your precious PvP and don't waste my time.

    Buh-bye!
    You keep saying you don't want to waste your time but you keep barking back...

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    Originally Posted by metalgearso1971 Go to original post
    And to others saying all sorts of things I didn't mention, I never even said PvP should not be added.
    Originally Posted by metalgearso1971 Go to original post
    Just my five cents, and not meant as a personal attack on anyone, but...
    ...
    So yeah, PvP in Wildlands? No, just no, Why? Because in the past all MP game modes Ubisoft made were nice to a small group of people while most people were like: what on Earth did you just create?
    ......
    I also believe PvP players should be separated from those who wish to play PvE only.
    Assume things you never said? You're clearly suffering from Alzheimer's old man...

    I don't need to use profanity or make insults to make myself feel better. I can provide you proof of your conflicting statements though.

    Are you going to bark back?
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    You again are missing my point. You clearly have missed the part where I said that if they decide to add it... That to me means I also did say that I feel this game does not necessarily need PvP but if they decide to do it I gave a suggestion on how they could do it.

    Oh, and thank you for pointing out I have a brain disease. I actually do have a mental condition, which sometimes makes me act the way I do. And that is not me trying to gain sympathy here, it's just the way I am unfortunately.

    If that however is how you end a discussion, that is fine by me. I am not speaking to you anymore about this subject.
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    Ok mate, all the best.
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