I'll Keep It Short and Simple, He's My Main, Favorite Character and like all the other characters he's cool as hell. That being said, I'm purposing two ways to fix one of his biggest issues, Hurd-BUrTTz
1) My personal choice if given the opportunity, is to completely take it away, Remove it. Real warlord fans will adapt, plus he's got plenty more tools where that came from.
2) Take away the spam crazy free Light hit Combo he get's after using the headbutt, it's way too simple and is mindless.
Any other serious warlord mains/fans drop your point of view and or Feedback.
I know it can't be avoided but I'm asking for serious discussion , not the "he should be removed completely" type of discussion, even though i'm sure it's coming.
warlord fixes let them be read, boiz
Edit: I'd also like to add that i've won games now without using the headbutt entirely, did it with mind games and his hyper/Super(Whatever) armor that allows him to tank enemy attacks. Relied solely on that he can still win games some possible evidence that he has one too many tools
I'm not a warlord main, but as a kensei main I have no ways to open defensive players, so it is always frustrating when I am having a good fight that involves skill and mind games with a warlord, but as soon as the warlord gets to 1 bar of health he stops taking risked entirely and headbuts my health away. I think that warlord has plenty of tools to be viable without the headbutt. I know that the headbutt was made punishable in the last patch, but it is still super hard to dodge without predicting it, and if the warlord gbs instead then you are screwed. I am actually fine with him having the headbutt as long as the light is removed.
Yea i've been testing fights with other warlords to see if I can beat them without using it (I have successfully beaten all other high level characters ) and I wish I'd saved some replays because what happens in a Warlord vs Warlord duel is proof of what i'm talking about, So after countering/out playing their play styles they all resort to nothing but headbutt, and in a high level fight you go for what's most efficient. It becomes a drawn out experience where they will headbutt my entire life bar down. Proving it's just way too safe a move. especially when warlord has other tools. All of which become obsolete when you can just constantly headbutt a better player then flee when you need more stamina.Originally Posted by Chucky_Jones Go to original post
Edit: When I say headbutt i'm referring to the combo headbutt-to Light Hit
The zone attack does too much damage. Even on a Raider with his large health bar it does a whole block of damage.Originally Posted by UbiJurassic Go to original post
it does alot of damage but is super easy to parry/block it will always come from the right of your view and he loses a decent amount of stamina for doing so. It's usually used as a last hit of a chain. Try using it on someone in high level they won't be falling for it forever. also warlord doesn't have high damage combos like other characters. Might be a simple fix for your raider manOriginally Posted by Varicose_Veins Go to original post
Is this thread for real?
Headbutt just got nerfed in the last patch. It now uses more stam and is more reactable and punishable. It's fine the way it is now. People have adapted and counter it all the time.
Are you seriously suggesting removing it from his moveset? We need to expand movesets, not make them smaller.
You can say it got more punishable and reachable, but that only matters if the change is significant. It is still super hard to dodge and it has insane range and tracking. I won't speak for everyone, but I don't want the headbuktt to be removed. I either want the light to not be free, or for the headbutt to be actually reactable and risky.Originally Posted by Bob__Gnarly Go to original post
Fact is lots of people still have problems with it. I'm saying I can clutch games with using it. And he really does have way more toolsOriginally Posted by Bob__Gnarly Go to original post
I main Warden and don't have too much trouble with Warlord. I don't think the headbutt is particularly worse than, well, any other bash attack...Shugoki headbutt, Lawbringer pole bash, Warden shoulder, Conquer shield, etc. Warlord might be a bit more cheese with follow up light, but if any adjustments are made, they should probably be small. It's more about incentives than anything; give the Warlord more incentive to use the other tools. If you're spamming headbutt because it's your best option then it just might not be the headbutt's fault.