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[nyrue]

the conqueror needs to be able to counter GB while charging his heavy, please ubisoft see the wisdom in this

[Rye.Bread.]

You can it just requires really good timing. I do however think the Conquerors guard break needs to be faster or everyones reaction post block needs to slow down, because you can't get a guardbreak in on several characters who will just spam light attacks and eat you alive. Very imbalanced against peacekeepers, valkyrie, orochi and berserkers.

I concur. Ever since the patch, playing conqueror has been nothing but frustration. The only kills I can get anymore are environmental kills. Sure, if the opponent messes up I can land a heavy, maybe. Sometimes I'll get a regular kill, but 80-90% of them right now are all environmental kills.

What Conq needs back is the ability to all-block from stun. That was a crucial component of Conqueror's already limited kit.

For those that complain "Muh warden light combo can't hit conq with that"

a) No. Conqueror has a right to be the defensive tank of the game, as intended. It still works on the other 11 characters.
OR
b) Fine, give me my panic button, but make warden's second light attack in the combo unblockable (orange), since it's always supposed to hit anyway.

Finally, conqueror needs 1 additional aggressive opener, such as some standing/static shield smack or bap to the face. No damage without the feat, but an opener nonetheless to stop the spam of shield charge, even though it was his only directly aggressive move.. (NOT THAT SHIELD CHARGE IS USEFUL ANYMORE EITHER.)
Pro-tip: Shield charge is no longer useful, just like the rest of Conqueror's moves.


Also, Raider could probably use some love. I don't play raider, but I'm not just a conq whiner-baby, I want balance.. I'll make a thread about it.

[nyrue]

You can it just requires really good timing. I do however think the Conquerors guard break needs to be faster or everyones reaction post block needs to slow down, because you can't get a guardbreak in on several characters who will just spam light attacks and eat you alive. Very imbalanced against peacekeepers, valkyrie, orochi and berserkers.

I haven't been playing conqueror that much lately, but i'm fairly certain you cant.

[KotoKuraken]

Yea, you can't counter a GB while charging your heavy. The only "counter" is if you manage to release right before they GB you, but it's a stretch.

Also, I've received a ton of toxicity for this, but,

ATTACKS SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT HIS SHIELD BASH. What kind of shield bash is a a shield that doesn't block incoming attacks.

[Rye.Bread.]

Yea, you can't counter a GB while charging your heavy. The only "counter" is if you manage to release right before they GB you, but it's a stretch.

Also, I've received a ton of toxicity for this, but,

ATTACKS SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT HIS SHIELD BASH. What kind of shield bash is a a shield that doesn't block incoming attacks.

Yeah, Ubi really threw conq into the trashcan with this one. I've been playing lawbringer for now, since he's so powerful.

Conqueror was balanced before, albeit very limited in his offense which led to spam. I'd still take what they did to shield bash if I instead got another move added that was both defensive and reliable. The all-block panic button, however, MUST return.

I was even O K with not having 25 damage on the heavy, as it lent more to his feel of being THE unkillable tank that DIDN'T HAVE TO worry about kills. Gee, boohoo, I miss an execution. Don't get me wrong, the standardization of damage for that was nice, but Conq is certainly due for a really juicy buff, unless they want the playerbase to die faster. Have fun selling DLC when nobody is willing to buy it.


For the first time in the history of this game, I am legitimately angry about a patch.

[Illion_Lantar]

I love conqueror, it have been my fist class and I up it to rep 9.... but let's face the truth Ubisoft don't care about the conqueror and never do, they just put him there to have a heavy in the knight faction, now they have nerf it and they will just stay him there, crawling in his dead flesh

want an proof they don't care, half of the nerf on conqueror are just bug fix... they han't been able to code it well at the begening