Brawl matches like two 1vs1 fights? Why? | Forums

[Skrydern]

Hello everyone!

I'm one of those few guys who really like the combat modes 4vs4, 2vs2 and 1vs1. However, most of my experiences in 2vs2 are getting quite disappointing nowadays. When I play a brawl match i play it like it's designed - 2vs2 combat fighting till the death. That means whenever I win my fight, I rush to my teammate to help him. We are a team, and we are to win and survive at all cost.

However, most people seem to think that a brawl match is supposed to be fought like two separate 1vs1 fights. Usually that means that whenever I join in on my teammates fight I get called bad things and quite often someone has intercourse with my mom. Also I've experienced that my teammate just feeds me to the two enemies and refuse to fight before I'm dead. Because of these reaction I usually state, already in the loading screen, that I do not intend to play the match with that honor nonsense, but that I play it like a brawl game. It rarely has any effect whatsoever.

So my question here is. Why do people join a brawl fight if what they really want is to play duels? Ubisoft has been kind enough to design a game mode specifically for that, so I see no reason to "invade" the 2vs2 matches with a 1vs1 attitude. I want my chaotic and fierce 2vs2 combat back!

Regards
Skrydern

[Gray360UK]

It makes no sense, even what they think of as honourable makes no sense in a Brawl setting.

If honour includes abandoning your friend in his hour of need and watching as he gets his head cut off, I'll stick to being dishonourable.

[Skrydern]

It makes no sense, even what they think of as honourable makes no sense in a Brawl setting.

If honour includes abandoning your friend in his hour of need and watching as he gets his head cut off, I'll stick to being dishonourable.

Amen to that! I do imagine that had I lived during the middle ages as a glorious knight, I had most likely joined the fight as well to help my friend in need.

[Alchemist-21-]

We like what we like man. I'll stay honorable until the other team starts double teaming or my teammate asks for help. Although 99% of my brawls are in a party with a friend so we already know ahead of time that's how our team is going to work.

As an aside, the brawl maps are better than the duel maps. They're more open and you can get away from the annoying ledge kills, so the Brawl maps let you have more enjoyable 1v1's.

[Skrydern]

It's very fair that other people like to fight in other ways. I can respect that to some extend. But getting flamed over and over for playing the game like it's meant to be played ... I just don't get it. It takes some of the fun away for me. It's far more enjoyable to meet people that are non-toxic and less salty.

[xLeapingLizardx]

We like what we like man. I'll stay honorable until the other team starts double teaming or my teammate asks for help. Although 99% of my brawls are in a party with a friend so we already know ahead of time that's how our team is going to work.

As an aside, the brawl maps are better than the duel maps. They're more open and you can get away from the annoying ledge kills, so the Brawl maps let you have more enjoyable 1v1's.

Good point^
For whatever reason I enjoy Brawl more than duel. But I play Brawl like 2 1v1s. Probably does have to do with the fact the Brawl maps are 10 times better than the small insta-kills everywhere duel maps. Another reason is it almost feels like a "survival" kind of game mode. I beat my opponent and if my ally dies I move onto the next opponent with the same health I had from my last fight. Also if I lose my fight my teammate can still carry me and swing a glorious 2 kill victory.
Lasty, if an enemy is using a cheap, cheesy, over-used, spam character, I don't have to face that person each round. I can have a slight variety to my opponents instead of 3 rounds of PK light attack spam.

So I dunno, play how you want, but there is plenty of reasons to like brawl as a 2 1v1 fights scenario.

[CandleInTheDark]

Because people seem to confuse For Honor and With Honor. There is no honour in allowing an ally to get his head cut off.

[Ontari]

Yeah, I just had a match with people calling me **** in 2v2 for helping my teammate.

I don't get that mentality, as it has no reflection in reality. I mean, I would never ildly watch how my friend gets his *** beaten when I've dealt with my opponent.

In war environment this is also a ridiculous iea. When you have the numbers advantage you just use it. And this is what revenge mechanics are for - to give you a chance to fight off multiple opponents, not as people previously thought, to give you darn superpowers.

As for me, I really enjoy being outnumbered as a Kensei, I almost feel as if having slight avdantage in such situations, due to the reach of nodachi and quick dashes. And it is just adrenaline pumping and more entertaining

[escacleo]

Cause its not ranked. Once ranked is in play this HONOR model will disappear like a fart in the wind.

[rihC.]

I think this could be easily fixed by the devs, so I will post it again in hope a CM will take a look:

I like the idea of "honorable" kills in Brawl Mode, just for immersion purposes.
It seems, in my experience, that the majority of the "brawlers" in this game too.There is also the fact that the game engine recognizes the 1v1 kills as a 'honorable kill' - let's just forget for a moment that the same game engine allows you to throw the enemy off the cliff and still counts it as a 'honorable kill'.

That being said - in the current state of Brawl Mode - I don't think you should simply assume not to help your partner when he needs help (aka: is about to die) because *insert w/e reason you might have*, unless both you and your partner agreed to it before the match starts. When you play any team-based game you have a primary commitment to your teammate(s) and to win the match, not yourself. If you are a selfish player incapable of realize this point... it's ok too, but I suggest you go play the Duel Mode instead.

As I said, I vastly prefer 2x(1x1 duels) in Brawl mode, but I'm wrong if I assume my partner also do. The mode was not designed for it.

Now, a suggestion to Ubisoft to fix this situation, segregate Brawl Mode in two different modes (similar to what we have for Deathmatch):

• MODE1: our current Brawl mode (when 100% of the time you can assume it will be 2 against 2 at ALL times, and if you are not playing it this way you are doing it wrong)
• MODE2: a new 2x2 mode, but this time the map is closed in a way that you only have access to your opponent, once you kill your opponent and the other duel also finishes the map opens and a third final battle (or not, if you both win) will take place

Meantime, a simple: "hey, lets do 2x2 or 2x(duels)?" to your partner before the match starts would avoid A LOT of hate.