Conqueror Needs To Be Re-Balanced! | Forums

[RatedChaotic]

I don't really have time to deal with nonsense. I said he couldn't feint but you said he could. He can "feint", but not in the way ALL other heroes do it, its highly ineffective, If you can even call it feinting; In his moveset it specifically says "Contrary to other heroes, the conqueror cannot feint." If you want to think using full block stance to cancel an attack is feinting, be my guest. We're finished here, onto posts that actually have some form of arguement as to why conqueror should or should not be rebalanced. Good day.

So just because his feint isnt similar to the other heroes its not a feint? I suggest you watch the advanced video on the conq more closely. The word feint is in there. Just because you think its not effective does not mean everyone does.

I'm sorry you get butt hurt when someone has a different opinion than yours. Tho thats not my problem.

And to be clear......I do believe he needs looked into. I've mained him in the closed beta, open beta and now. I just dont agree with all of your statements and your failure to mention key mechanics for him is a problem with your report ie full stance feint and light attack chain and your opinion that he only has one move that makes him win is his shield bash is I'm sorry. Wrong. I've beat players without bashing once.

Honestly, he gives me more of a challenge than any other hero has in all 3 versions. But he is beatable. Good day Sir.

[cane2simons]

So just because his feint isnt similar to the other heroes its not a feint? I suggest you watch the advanced video on the conq more closely. The word feint is in there. Just because you think its not effective does not mean everyone does.

I'm sorry you get butt hurt when someone has a different opinion than yours. Tho thats not my problem.

And to be clear......I do believe he needs looked into. I've mained him in the closed beta, open beta and now. I just dont agree with all of your statements and your failure to mention key mechanics for him is a problem with your report ie full stance feint and light attack chain. Honestly, he gives me more of a challenge than any other hero has in all 3 versions. But he is beatable. Good day Sir.

The conqueror cannot feint. There is a button for feinting and a button for full block stance. Try pressing the feint button while attacking as conqueror and see if he feints. He can cancel attacks by activating full block stance, but thats not considered feinting. That's considered pressing the full block stance button to cancel off an attack. Feinting is manually pressing the feint button to feint an attack, and you don't have to go through a recovery phase when you feint. Unlike if you were to press full block stance, you have to ethier shield bash or exit full block (which takes time) to attack; in other words, that's nowhere NEAR what the feinting mechanic in this game does.
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^So true it hurts^
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If i was not clear: CANCELING AN ATTACK WITH FULL BLOCK STANCE IS NOT CONSIDERED FEINTING There really are no if ands or buts about it. Ive clearly just explained the difference between feinting and canceling an attack with a full block stance. You can believe what you want but this will be the last you hear of me discussing this with you. Please read Conqueror's moveset. Thank you.
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Note: 2 people agree'd with my first statement contradicting your first arguement, please look at the facts from every angle and make sure you know that you KNOW what you're talking about.

[cane2simons]

Obviously, conq does not need anything but a nerf again. It is still Op, especially in dominion where it is far too good at holding point and kiiking using ledges or pikes.

True, if there's anyone who can hold a zone effectively in dominion it's all 3 heavy heroes. But that's what they're meant for, they even gain extra renown for doing it.

[Specialkha]

Yes they are meant for that, but conq is far too effective at it.

[cane2simons]

Yes they are meant for that, but conq is far too effective at it.

The problem here is not how effective conqueror is at holding a zone, the problem is how effective he is all round just because of one ability.

[DrExtrem]

The problem here is not how effective conqueror is at holding a zone, the problem is how effective he is all round just because of one ability.

... and if that ability is suddenly not effective anymore, the house of cards collapses.

I am playing conq. to rank one atm ... starting to get a feeling for the heavy counter strike. Tricky stuff.

[cane2simons]

... and if that ability is suddenly not effective anymore, the house of cards collapses.

I am playing conq. to rank one atm ... starting to get a feeling for the heavy counter strike. Tricky stuff.

The heavy counter strike is so...unnecessary. Using heavies with superior block property on startup is like parrying, except you have to do it a little earlier than the parry timing, you dont guard break, and it's a bit faster. Im not entirely sure if the heavy counter strike is a guaranteed hit, ive used it multiple times myself, even some assassins managed to block it. However i'll look more into it.

[MassiveD.]

Bad OP is bad, complaining about conqueror feint being weak, meanwhile conqeror has the safest most broken feint in the game - spend little more stamina but can cancel directly into full block or even into bash.

Conqueror and Valkyrie are the only 2 characters in the game completely immune to feinting, and that is a huge huge deal

[RatedChaotic]

The conqueror cannot feint. There is a button for feinting and a button for full block stance. Try pressing the feint button while attacking as conqueror and see if he feints. He can cancel attacks by activating full block stance, but thats not considered feinting. That's considered pressing the full block stance button to cancel off an attack. Feinting is manually pressing the feint button to feint an attack, and you don't have to go through a recovery phase when you feint. Unlike if you were to press full block stance, you have to ethier shield bash or exit full block (which takes time) to attack; in other words, that's nowhere NEAR what the feinting mechanic in this game does.
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^So true it hurts^
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If i was not clear: CANCELING AN ATTACK WITH FULL BLOCK STANCE IS NOT CONSIDERED FEINTING There really are no if ands or buts about it. Ive clearly just explained the difference between feinting and canceling an attack with a full block stance. You can believe what you want but this will be the last you hear of me discussing this with you. Please read Conqueror's moveset. Thank you.
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Note: 2 people agree'd with my first statement contradicting your first arguement, please look at the facts from every angle and make sure you know that you KNOW what you're talking about.

Watch the Advanced video of the Conqueror about 3/4s of the way in........and I quote "Conqueror cannot feint but can use full block stance as a FEINT." Also not once in your OP did you mentioned half of whats in that video. Just shows me you have no idea what your even reporting. Pretty sure the definition of feint is pretending a blow or attack in which you are doing. Nuff said. Good day.

[UbiJurassic]

The latest patch is introducing a slight nerf to him, but we will definitely be keeping an eye on different ways to adjust him going forward. I'll be sure to make a note of your feedback for the team. We interested to hear everyone's thoughts on ways we can balance conqueror.