Is Lawbringer now mopst OP class ingame? | Forums

[RLTygurr]

Coming from a rep 15 Lawbringer here,

Yes. He's a lot better than he was before. Yes, his light attack after shoves is very, VERY fast (as far as I've seen, unparryable as well) but you can still dodge it if you dodge immediately when you can.

However, he's no more powerful than other classes in terms of damage. Warden's top heavy does roughly the same damage as LB's strongest attack, Blind justice. And you can use that anytime you throw someone against a wall. Berzerkers too. Valk can perma-lock us in revenge mode. Warlord gets guaranteed damage on headbutt, which is much easier to land than shove. Not to mention his array of passives and his uninterruptible heavies.

Yes, I agree the Conquerer is extremely weak now simply because he never had more than one option for the offensive, and now that his only option isn't entirely safe (some characters still can't punish the shield bash reliably because of slow dodge speed). He's destroyed in most matchups now unless you just block for free guard breaks on heavies, which happen a lot.

I won't even get into warden players and their reliance on vortex. He's the same as conquerer used to be, but safer and with more options with his fast zone and top light attack.

Then you have kensei who absolutely dominates most LB's because of their ability to feint so fast and his dashing gb as well as his superior block on dodge. He can dodge one attack forward and get a free gb every time.

The only real way to be successful as LB is to turtle because you have the most guaranteed damage off of a parry, heavy or light. Heavy- you'll either get a stunning tap (15 damage base) or an impaling riposte which is still not guaranteed against all characters, shugoki, LB, and Conq can still block them (8 damage I believe) into a wall for a free top heavy (25-30 damage I think). Light- Impaling riposte or Blind justice (45 damage base on blind justice). You have a LOT of damage off of parries.

If you don't mind exploiting the bugs in the game, you can do light feints and gb feints to be a more aggressive player, but both of them are extremely difficult to pull of consistently, especially if you use a controller.

Do I think he's broken and OP? No. Far from it. Do I think he's easily at the top of mid-tier characters? Definitely, and especially top tier in 4v4 fights if you don't care about honor. I manage to win 85% of the time in duels though, so maybe people just suck.

[secrecy274]

1. LB can chain 3 attacks one after the other one and all off them are unblockable.So this is not OP?
2. LB light attacks are the fasters in game and do more dmg then any light attacks in game.So you think this is not OP?

I think this is enough what making him the most OP class in game and it will be cool if LB mains try to say sad true and not trying to defend this class because this class its just killing population of the game.

Wow... you're so wrong it's not even funny...
1) He has a couple of chains, yes, but there's no chain that's all unblockables. And the chains that are mostly Unblockables are Shove -> Long Arm, and neither does any damage.
2) Once again, not even close. Orochi, Peacekeeper and Kensei all deal more damage on their light attacks, and they are faster as well.

[TheMalakith]

Sorry to break it to you, but if you think LB is OP than you most likely aren't that good of a player.

[Netcode_err_404]

Peacekeeper, Warden, Warlord, Valkyrie. Everyone else has very exploitable weaknesses, Lawbringers just turtle matches so if you get a weak squad sure it sucks to fight one.

You said that, the problem is the turtling meta, not LB.

[Peligrad]

Seems to me that LB is pretty solid.

Almost everything the conq used to do, the LB does now.

He parries for crazy damage like how conq can parry with a charge heavy, but LB doesn't need to charge and only deals a little less damage than a charged heavy.

He has a great spammable tech that he has many ways into, even more ways than the conq can get into shield bash. And he has nearly guaranteed damage off his tech. His light attack isn't quite guaranteed but it puts them into a 50/50 where they have to dodge before the animation comes out. So it's a 50/50 between getting light attacked or an uncounterable GB for double the guaranteed damage or an environment kill. LB's spammable tech also has super armor. Which makes it all that much more dangerous around ledges since attacks won't interrupt from being tossed off.

I'd say that LB's current power level is equal to if not marginally higher than pre-nerf conqueror's power level.

That said, conq was never the very strongest character in the game. So I'd struggle with saying that LB is currently OP.

From where I'm sitting, it seems like PK is still the strongest character in the game. Warlord, LB, Warden, Zerker, Valk, and Shugoki all seem to be in a pretty good spot. I don't think Nobushi is far off the mark either.

To me it seems like there is on OP character. 6-7 balanced characters. and 3-4 characters than need some love (Nobushi?, Conq, Kensei, and Raider).

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

Warden's is just a GB, any char can do GB so it's not special. Shugoki's hug of death is as good but it also has huge draw back, while Long Arm is technically free and you can spam it continuously. Valk's needs successful hits to perform so they can parry/block you, it's impossible to block a long arm when you're surrounded, and if you try to dodge, that's a free GB for LB's teammates.

Ya know, the attack that if dodged nets a free GB "Free Attack"

[We_Wuz_Kongz]

Dono men im noob.

Fixed it for ya!

[Ice1mind]

I think lawbringer isn't Op but better than before and he got some skill to fight in duel.

[Marmiteinjars]

1. LB can chain 3 attacks one after the other one and all off them are unblockable.So this is not OP?
2. LB light attacks are the fasters in game and do more dmg then any light attacks in game.So you think this is not OP?

I think this is enough what making him the most OP class in game and it will be cool if LB mains try to say sad true and not trying to defend this class because this class its just killing population of the game.

You are the most deluded half-wit I have ever encountered in the forums.

[Ikeru_Densetsu]

Coming from a rep 15 Lawbringer here,


Then you have kensei who absolutely dominates most LB's because of their ability to feint so fast and his dashing gb as well as his superior block on dodge. He can dodge one attack forward and get a free gb every time.

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If a Kensei with piss poor 500ms superior block and his predictable feints can dominate you then you must be one ****ty Lawbringer lfmao