Shove light UNSAFE (Lawbringer) | Forums

[Arekonator]

I am pretty sure the free GB if dodged is intended and in line with other stuff in the patch - specifically with the attempt to make similar moves, warlord headbutt and conq shield charge easier to punish on whiff.

[eliteslayer66]

So, after watching this week's Warrior's Den, it is now confirmed that the shove light is intended to be unblockable but dodgeable, but they say nothing about the dodged light giving the enemy a free GB, which leads me to believe this is an unintended punish(especially since they fixed every other light moves that were punishable by GB in the balance patch)

Hopefully the devs can clear up the intended mechanics of this move soon, or just fix it ASAP.

I think roman specifically said that you should go for a gb if they doge.

[MumfordDaHound]

I think roman specifically said that you should go for a gb if they doge.

Is the GB able to be countered (CGB)? If so what's the big deal?

[Felis_Menari]

Is the GB able to be countered (CGB)? If so what's the big deal?

GBs can't be countered while dodging. They can be negated by performing sidestep attacks, but that's about it.

[fangzored]

Arekonator: a free GB after a dodged light is NOT in line with the patch, in fact it runs completely OPPOSITE the changes they made to every light attacks that were previously punishable by GBs, keep in mind our shove is different from the others because its follow up dmg can be dodge.

eliteslayer66: Roman said he wants the LB to be able to mixup lights and GBs after shove, he said nothing about the dodged light giving a free GB, this skews the risk/reward of our "50/50" way too heavily on the side of shove GB and will make us super predictable

cito2009: the GB after a dodged shove light is UNCOUNTERABLE, its the whole point of my original post....i'm not talking about the LB's GB, i'm talking about the opponent dodging the shove light and then GBing you for free

[We_Wuz_Kongz]

First off, you cant "spam" dash shove because the shove itself is dodgeable super easily( way easier than headbutt and shield bash) and can be punished easily.
Secondly, the light follow up doesn't have to be dodged blind, people with good reaction time can dodge it after you start the animation, making it a "mixup" only against bad players.

in a patch where they fixed most(all?) of the lights into GB punishes this is either a terribly stupid decision or a gross oversight.

Wow you make LB mains everywhere look bad. We aren't all this entitled not every LB thinks that their easy damage should also be safe. Yo guy you know there's already a class that has safe easy damage right? It's called warden. You might wanna try that instead.

[fangzored]

Wow you make LB mains everywhere look bad. We aren't all this entitled not every LB thinks that their easy damage should also be safe. Yo guy you know there's already a class that has safe easy damage right? It's called warden. You might wanna try that instead.

Nice ad hominem into strawman, you must have a lot of practice trolling idiots.

I never said shove light should not be punishable, i'm saying, as you PROVE by comparing it to wardens by the way(thank you for that) that a free GB is much too severe a punish, we should be open to a free light attack at most, not a free GB because we miss a LIGHT ATTACK.

Go back to twitter and trolling alt-righters, your crappy tactics don't work here.

[Chucky_Jones]

I think it's is pretty fair that a 50-50 mixup that is gaurenteed on block should be punishable with a gb the opponent guesses right. You may say that a gb then heavy for avoiding a light attack is unfair, but if they consistently dodge and then you go you will get a heavy. I feel like wardens vortex should be like this so you can actually punish if you guess right.

[We_Wuz_Kongz]

Nice ad hominem into strawman, you must have a lot of practice trolling idiots.

I never said shove light should not be punishable, i'm saying, as you PROVE by comparing it to wardens by the way(thank you for that) that a free GB is much too severe a punish, we should be open to a free light attack at most, not a free GB because we miss a LIGHT ATTACK.

Go back to twitter and trolling alt-righters, your crappy tactics don't work here.

You want to be more like warden I want warden to be more in line with everyone else. No need for the tears. We disagree I think 50/50s are too safe and too easy to access. You seem to think the opposite. If were to say go back to twitter and trolling libtards, your crappy tactics don't work here. A statement like that seems like more of a personal attack to distract from my main point. Now are we gonna throw logical fallacies at each other or have a discussion?