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  1. #1

    Countering the running shugo?

    I'm sure everyone decent has fought at least a few of these.

    General troll strategy in duels, Shugoki uses headbutt or just initial starting position to run at you and force a 50/50 between either activated his running charge to knock you dock and take two bars of health, or simply GB'ing you as you try to dodge. Worse yet, while rolling could technically avoid both it eats a ton of stamina and just puts the Shugoki back to the same position. And, he can technically knock you out of the roll if his aim is good.

    So, just curious here if there is a known way to effectively counter it. I consider myself decent but I've yet to see anything really effective other than hugging the shugoki for the entire match so he doesn't get any distance (and then praying he never gets a light attack in to trigger headbutt).
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    You can't.

    Their hyper armor prevents them to be punishable.

    Cuz this is a competitive game,and its not true these 50/50 are abusable. We should all git gud.
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  3. #3
    Welp... I gathered as much from common sense that would be the answer but figured it was worth a probe to see if anyone discovered something clever.

    You never know lol
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    Originally Posted by Rikuto-san Go to original post
    Welp... I gathered as much from common sense that would be the answer but figured it was worth a probe to see if anyone discovered something clever.

    You never know lol
    Dodge attack could probably hit a running shugo, but if yoiu fail, you will get knocked down, and recieve a free r2 worth of damage.
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    There's no real effective counters, you just roll away. I think the Raider can somewhat counter it because of his side dash into GB but that's it. You have to apply a lot of pressure to Shugoki. As soon as he misses his Oni charge, stick to him like glue so he doesn't have the chance to back up and charge at you again.

    The devs are already aware of it so expect a nerf sometime soon. I just find it funny that Shugoki's 50/50 gets nerfed while Warden is allowed to keep his. Devs seem completely fine with him during the stream and have no plans to nerf his 50/50.
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    Originally Posted by Dizzy4213 Go to original post
    There's no real effective counters, you just roll away. I think the Raider can somewhat counter it because of his side dash into GB but that's it. You have to apply a lot of pressure to Shugoki. As soon as he misses his Oni charge, stick to him like glue so he doesn't have the chance to back up and charge at you again.

    The devs are already aware of it so expect a nerf sometime soon. I just find it funny that Shugoki's 50/50 gets nerfed while Warden is allowed to keep his. Devs seem completely fine with him during the stream and have no plans to nerf his 50/50.
    Well, they are the same devs who buffed the pk, but left Raider untouched.
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  7. #7
    Well, the warden vortex can be hard countered by simply guessing right and stabbing the warden in the face depending on his action.... shugoki vortex is a little too forgiving on the shugoki.
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    GB or roll. Gb can be tricky but...welll offers a free GB on him. Of course he can tech it. But that's kinda what you want. No suhgoki will opt to charge when their armor is gone. When you annoy them with GB's they'll stop if they don't want to lose. Then you mix-it up.
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  9. #9
    Not every time but I dodge attack on Kensei. It hits them as they run by due to tracking. After a few times they tend to stop trying it on me.
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