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[RoosterIlluzion]

I'm aware of the update that changes many aspects of the game including revenge. But I think revenge has been modified in the wrong way. Instead of using only the gear stats that pertain to revenge (which won't affect most people because they already have Max revenge stats), a health shield AND Max stamina, revenge should only give players the stats on gear & health shield. The unlimited stamina has to go.
I feel that is the one thing making revenge OP. Players in revenge can already take stupid amounts of damage (with Max defense on top of health shield), knock players down with any throws, and (with Max attack stats), do stupid damage easily.

I've seen too many times, players dominant 1 v 4 not just once in a round, but with multiple revives, and it's because they just spam zone attack while they have unlimited stamina.

[Neqva]

your a bit late. the nerfs have already hit

[Desperaato]

Cant wait for the counter circle jerking to start when people start to realize ganking is now auto win xD

[TheRevanchist27]

^-I found the ganker in the thread.


There's no excuse for it, it's just garbage gameplay that isn't fun for anyone, especially the target.


Fact of the matter is, Revenge was buffed to that level because of how ganking was out of hand during the Alpha and Betas. Ubisoft even stated that they wanted "more duels, less ganks" (I'm paraphrasing).

[TheRevanchist27]

Boo-hoo. Losing's not fun for anyone, so let's give every incompetent player a denial toward loss mechanic that brings you back to life the moment you die.

They have that, it's called the Warlord.

You want duels, go to 1v1. There's your fair and square duel-mode game which objective and conditions of winning actually IS to duel the other guy.

You'll find ganking to be boring in a soon enough time. The sad thing is that the game will suffer for your lack of educated opinion.

If you step into a 4v4 elimination, skirmish or dominion, the objective is to either kill off the other team first, or to control nodes. If your prime objective is to find a fair duel, don't go crawling into a game mode which you don't even know what the objective & rule is and then start complaining about 'ganking'.

Oh I understand the objective and the rules quite clearly, Revenge mode was just the antithesis to ganking. You could still attempt to gank, but it certainly was not going to be made easy for you to do so, and now that it has, it's watered down the skill level of the game.

At least get your frickin' facts straight before whining about your own incompetency to comprehend how a game is played, plz.

Now you're just making baseless assumptions and attacking me.

Whatever they said in the alpha and beta apply to only alpha and beta. The latest opinion on that matter from the same people are "yes, we admit revenge was too much" -- hence the nerf. Get with the times.

I concede on that point, Ubisoft clearly don't know what the hell they are doing and are admitting that they cave to every single ninny who whines on the forums.

The only "fact of matter" is being ganked is a sign of pis*-poor coordination on your part.

In other words, only dumb people get ganked. Don't blame your own dumbery on someone else.

Not true at all, anyone at any time can get ganked, regardless of intellectual or skill status. Ganking in and of itself is a brainless and low-skill "tactic" if you can even call it that, within the limitations of a game like this using Z-Targeting systems. The fact that Revenge Mode forces smarter gameplay proved it was right where it needed to be.

[Gemini-Iceland]

What is wrong with Revenge in the new patch is that it boosts some heroes too much and other too little. The ones that have abilities like head butt and shield bash can put players on their back reliably and really put pressure back. But other heroes don't have any change to their abilities and have a lot harder time fighting outnumbered.

[TheRevanchist27]

Here is every reason why you are wrong.

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https://www.vg247.com/2017/01/30/the...or-honor-beta/

"The notion of what the game was envisioned as on paper is already at odds with how it’s panning out in reality; game designer Bio Jade has talked about changes to scoring in Dominion and the addition of the Revenge mechanic as a means to deal with feedback that there were “too many group fights, not enough duels.”

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"The Revenge mechanic is a monument in itself to the harsh realities of re-balancing a game to account for berks. The newly added meter fills up when you block or take damage. When it’s full you can unleash it, knockback enemies, and gain a temporary buff to all of your stats.

It’s essentially a button you can press after you’ve been mercilessly wailed on that gives you a brief window to go mental and dole out some sweet justice. It had to be implemented out of necessity because getting ganged up on happened frequently enough to warrant the need for it. "



In short, Ubi made it that way to counter the relentless ganking, it did its job. Ubisoft not knowing how to handle a game like this, turns around and brings back ganking due to continuous forum whining.

[TheRevanchist27]

Here's a little tip: "Then is then, now is now."

Objectives and visions change all the time.

If you can't adapt, just go away and play...I dunno... checkers or something. That's an 'honorable' game since its always '1v1'. Why keep beat your head against something you have no intention to learn, to adapt, to use brains and think, and then keep crying us a river of QQs, is really beyond me.

That's the best you got? Strawmen arguments, Argumentum ad Hominems, and petty attempts at trolling?

You're the one who failed to adapt to revenge, you and others like you it seems. I've been gaming for many years, and honestly, this kind of garbage goes in cycles. The outcry against ganking is already starting up and the patch hasn't even hit consoles yet. So it's only a matter of time until Ubi buffs Revenge again to deal with the issue.

The irony is that you had no intention to learn, to adapt, to use brains and think, and kept crying us all a river of QQ's over Revenge mode until Ubi nerfed it in this recent patch.

[Robsket]

They really dont have good arguments!
Just trolling!
The pro s of strong revenge are definatly much more than this gangspambanging nonsense of R2button smash!

Revenge button smash instead was ok?
TWO HITS AND IT TRIGGERS, TWO HITS AND U ARE DEAD. Please.