Unblockables that take an hour and a half to swing should not be able to be parried.. | Forums

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Just saying.


I finally just got around to leveling the Kensei to prestige 1 and I gotta say his overhead unblockable should not able to be parried. Nor should any Unblockable that takes forever to swing and is telegraphed.



Any half dead drunk child with 3 fingers and one arm can parry them.


They are literally useless against anyone who has the slightest idea of how to play.


I mean why even bother? Am I missing something?

[Herbstlicht]

Just saying.


I finally just got around to leveling the Kensei to prestige 1 and I gotta say his overhead unblockable should not able to be parried. Nor should any Unblockable that takes forever to swing and is telegraphed.



Any half dead drunk child with 3 fingers and one arm can parry them.


They are literally useless against anyone who has the slightest idea of how to play.


I mean why even bother? Am I missing something?

Yes, you miss something. Parry timing is a little harder on console. Kensei can feint his unblockable into: uninterruptable heavy left/right, canel, gb, light - ah well say he can feint it into pretty much everything would be best. You can even go into sidestep attack. So it is an incredibly versatile tool. Not that Kensei is fine - he is mediocre at best because everything he does can be reacted to. But the mechanic of parrying unblockables is good. Because .. you know what a forced parry means if some one does it ... but you simply did a feint?

Going to Shugoki for example: If this freakin trunk hits you after you got knocked down .. well, i loose like 75% of my life. But guess i deserved it. Therefore, if i am not knocked down, i can parry it. If i fail, i still loose 75% of my health. So these attacks all have their use and value, it just differs for classes and situations.

[Eclipsedmoon86]

As a kensei main I can just go ahead and tell you that you aren't playing him correctly if you're relying on that overhead swing.. lol. kensei is a master of feinting so with that learn to cancel the top heavy into a side heavy and mix up attacks once you get your opponent confused in what your actually going to do then you can start using the top heavy because they won't know what the hell your gonna do

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Yes, you miss something. Parry timing is a little harder on console. Kensei can feint his unblockable into: uninterruptable heavy left/right, canel, gb, light - ah well say he can feint it into pretty much everything would be best. You can even go into sidestep attack. So it is an incredibly versatile tool. Not that Kensei is fine - he is mediocre at best because everything he does can be reacted to. But the mechanic of parrying unblockables is good. Because .. you know what a forced parry means if some one does it ... but you simply did a feint?

Going to Shugoki for example: If this freakin trunk hits you after you got knocked down .. well, i loose like 75% of my life. But guess i deserved it. Therefore, if i am not knocked down, i can parry it. If i fail, i still loose 75% of my health. So these attacks all have their use and value, it just differs for classes and situations.

It must not be that hard.


Out of the last 7 duels I played just now it was parried regularly in 6 of them lol


Yeah no. It needs to be harder than that.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Feel the very same about the raiders because it always comes from the same direction. Even if I daze someone he YELLS what he's about to do and they can parry it if they've played enough to know the timing. It sucks.

THIS




Make excuses for this people.



I'll wait

[cragar212]

Yes they should!

Parry baiting with unblockables is a huge part of gameplay. I get a ton of kills on raider by letting a cancelled unblokable rip vs an exhausted opponent. They goto parry it but do a heavy attack instead which is then parried into raiders 90 damage combo.

Kenseis have a few nice options with a baited parry off their unblokable.

[Yarzahn]

Just saying.


I finally just got around to leveling the Kensei to prestige 1 and I gotta say his overhead unblockable should not able to be parried. Nor should any Unblockable that takes forever to swing and is telegraphed.



Any half dead drunk child with 3 fingers and one arm can parry them.


They are literally useless against anyone who has the slightest idea of how to play.


I mean why even bother? Am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing a couple of things

1) It's safely used after a wall throw combo. As in guardbreak(1), wall throw (2), top heavy (3) for free nearly half the enemy hp. This is why Kensei's guardbreaks can initiate combos.
2) It can be feinted into whatever you feel like, mostly. Parry baiting is a thing. And Kensei's feints are extremely fast, compared to most of the roster.

[chiller2k3]

Kensei is a mindgamer with feints, you have to do that or you will get wrecked. If you do right you will wreck them (and also will hit the unblockable because of reasons you already got told).


Cheers

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Yes, you are missing a couple of things

1) It's safely used after a wall throw combo. As in guardbreak(1), wall throw (2), top heavy (3) for free nearly half the enemy hp. This is why Kensei's guardbreaks can initiate combos.
2) It can be feinted into whatever you feel like, mostly. Parry baiting is a thing. And Kensei's feints are extremely fast, compared to most of the roster.

Kensei is a mindgamer with feints, you have to do that or you will get wrecked. If you do right you will wreck them (and also will hit the unblockable because of reasons you already got told).


Cheers

So basically what I am getting here is that the Unblockable is entirely pointless unless I have them against a wall or unless I feint out of it?

[chiller2k3]

When you have feinted (using the soft feint) them like twice/three times into a heavy side you can start let the unblockable through once in a time, because they want to react to the side heavy/doge GB instead and . It's mostly not happening in the first round.
Feinting the right way (and playing with the peoples mind, mindgames) is a piece of art by itself and is the most powerful tool in this game. If you are a step ahead of the enemy you will reck a lot of people with Kensei.

I can recommend the For Honor Hero School from Klyka (Kensei as EnderVex):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4qycZA9Uyo

Maybe you can then imagine what the unblockable from Kensei is all about.

Cheers