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Old small tv's = ninja
Old small tv's = ninja
I'v been playing fusion on a 40" HDTV
since day one.
For the last 3 weeks or so i have
used an older and smaller tv.
I didnt really noticed anything at first,
then i decided to start playing ninjas again.
Its not like i smashed level 2s,
but i passed a bunch of them on
first try. Stuff just went surprisingly
"easy", i also did reach cp's on some
really tough tracks that i never reach before.
I certainly lack technique and experience to pass higer levels,
but not untill now i never saw my
self having any real chance of getting to that level of bike controll.
Then, i got access to my large HDTV again,
i was chocked! What had happened?
Everything felt so sluggish, we are
talking about milliseconds, but even so,
the different felt huge!
There was a clear controller latency. I Just couldnt do the same
ninja obstacles like before....
I went through every setting on
both the tv and the xbox one.
I changed the hdmi cable,
i played on the lowest possible
display settings, nothing helped.
My youngest son came by, i complained about this horrible input lag and asked him to try play
a few tracks that he was familiare with.
To my surprise, he didnt felt that anything was different!
Then i started to suspect something... did the smaller tv in fact have lower latency? And over
the last few weeks, i simply had gotten used to the few milliseconds better responce time?
I quickly changed over to the old and smaller Tv and BAM! Everything felt crisp and tight again!
I could stick to vertical walls like never before, i could climb intricate technical obstacles with ease..
Much Much better controll over the
bike in general.
Then i remembered a thread a few
years ago, i dont remember if it was
fusion or evo, but in a ninja discussion some of the top players
insisted that 1. A wired controller and 2. Playing on an old tv, made
all the different.
The part about the old tv wasnt
really taken seriously from a lot of
the riders in the discussion. Including myself. I could understand that a wired controller
Would do better than a wireless.
But how could an old tv be better
than new technology? That must be bs... I thought.
Now, several years later and after
googling around about controller input lag and latency, after having
experienced this myself first hand... I stand corrected!
It suddenly make perfect sence that
on top of the ninja throne there is
a rider that allways used to make
YouTube videos with his mobile phone, pointing it towards an old small tv
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Just to finish up;
No, an old tv wont make you a ninja.
But finding a tv or a tv-setting that reduce
the input lag will grately improve your chances.
And No, its not only old tv's that got
good / low input lag.
This link can be useful, an in-depth writeup about input-lag, tv settings etc..
http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag
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Oh.. One last ting,
i have been using both expressions
to try describe my experience;
1. Input lag (which is correct) and
2. Response time
Sorry about that.
"Note:*Do not confuse the input lag time with the response time. The response time is the time it takes*a pixel to shift from one color to another, which is significantly shorter than the input lag time. Response time is related to motion blur."
After reading a lot about this
It's to my understanding that tv producers often talks about
their great short response time,
often down to 5-12ms or less.
They almost never talk about
input lag, which is the important
part for gamers.
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3 in a row. The hat trick!
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