Banned
So, everyone's whinging about peacekeepers. To the point of them being banned from gamebattles tournaments. Bravo, you've successfully cried and made the most mediocre character banned.
What people don't seem to realise, is the conqueror is on a whole other level of overpowered-ness to the peacekeeper.
I have just seen a conqueror take on 4 good players, me included. We took it in turns to attack, he was getting thrown on the floor and against walls first then hit, he was getting revenge and pinned to the floor so revenge wasn't really the issue, 4 minutes of beating several shades of **** out of this guy and the round ends, default win to us.
How you may ask?
Because the conqueror is broken.
Conquerors have an impossibly good defense. Very quick stance change, If they block an attack it stops a combo and they can block whilst on the floor (like most characters but better, broken game).
On top of incredible defense, they can ALWAYS throw an uninterrupted light after a block. Sometimes a heavy if they're fast enough.
This would be ok to deal with. BUT.
They also get a feat which gives them health whilst blocking.
So the most defensive character in the game, who has nigh impenetrable defense, regenerates health by...defending.
This monster of a character spent 4 minutes, 4 MINUTES blocking endless attacks and regenerating health. 2 lawbringers, 1 kensei and 1 valkyrie couldn't beat him.
Why is that even possible!?
How could you create a game with such a ridiculous character!?
How have people got the peacekeeper banned, but don't seem bothered by the insanity that is the conqueror!?
As if all of that wasn't enough to make a game officially broken, he also activates revenge every 2 hits. Yep, every attack became uninterruptable. Broken mechanic stacked on broken mechanics.
Ubisoft have made some great games in their time but Christ, for honor is an absolute mess right now. Nerf the conqueror soon, because I guarantee when the peacekeepers ruined, the conqueror will rise as the king of being OP.
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He probably did his block all stance with revenge for infinite stamina and you guys kept attacking him to regenerate his health.
Ganks always end badly with revenge built characters. GB+teammate heavies then back off.
It also doesn't matter if you took turns, having 4 people locked on to him will fill his revenge meter faster.
Community Manager
Banned
With all due respect, a light nerf is pointless. Over the next year, you'll lightly nerf every character, then rebuff them beyond believe, then continue in that fashion because that's what you do with all your games.
I mean you've already made valkyrie unbelievably good, lawbringer and orochi will be following in that fashion soon enough.
What's needed is a massive nerf to every character, get them all on a totally level playing field.
You even acknowledge that some characters are top tier, well why even have the lower tier in the game if they're so useless? Idiotic design right there.
I don't really understand how Ubisoft make such great, unique titles (RB6, division, for honor) and yet can't balance any of the PVP properly.
If I thought Ubisoft would honor basic consumer laws, I'd get my £70 back to be honest. For honor is a mockery of what it should have been.
Banned
He was guard broken constantly, as well as thrown on floors and against walls as I stated. This wasn't a simple matter of one good person beating 4 poor players, this is one player with a broken character being able to defend against 4 people and regenerate health constantly. He had two lawbringers throwing him over their shoulder, whilst I hit him. He still blocked on the floor, FYI. Is that how they designed it? Conquerors can block whilst on the floor?
Banned
Well yeah, I know exactly what you mean. That's the more technical way of saying it.
Let's also not forget that they admitted the defense meta is too powerful and attacking doesn't reward you at all.
I understand that games have problems and issues on release, but Ubisoft take it to the next level. It's RB6:siege all over again but worse, as this game relies on more stats.
Guarantee, they'll keep giving certain players huge buffs and there will always be a top tier of characters, which is wrong imo.
I remain hopeful but tbh they'll just keep nerfing and buffing characters with no real conclusion or final equal balance.
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here (I can almost feel everyone rolling their eyes, lol.)
During this time that you guys were beating the crap out of this conqueror. How many of you did he kill? Did you lose the match?
I understand that is not the point of your complaint, however - I'd bet if this were a/an Peacekeeper/Valkyrie/Orochi with a revenge build that he would've taken a few out with him.
I'm not advocating for revenge, nor a buff to the conqueror. Honestly when I get revenge everyone just runs away while I make a futile attempt to chase one of them down. When they don't, I take advantage like anyone else would. My point here is that the problem is most likely with revenge itself. And will hopefully be taken care of this upcoming patch. Why not wait and see if people are still having problems with the conqueror after the nerfs roll out before crying for a massive one?
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nerfing definitely isn't the answer. in terms of character balance this is the best its going to get without a complete overhaul of the game. I think limiting revenge to 1 activation per life and creating 4v4 gamemodes without gear stats is the best and easiest choice at this point because at the end of the day the gear stats and constant revenge activation is what kept that guy alive in your story
