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[Haemmerst0rm]

Dear ubisoft

Are you aware of the cheesing tactic that shugoki's are using at the tournaments? Just by running around and using Oni Charge, followed with a heavy attack.How's that fun to fight when there is literally no counterplay. Can you make the startup of the charge more slower and make the charge drain 90% stamina like with lawbringer shove.

Also, can you remove the health that the shugoki is getting by hugging the ennemies (including the demon embrace). It is totally ridiculous and hes the only class in duel/brawl that can heal by hugs compared to all the other heroes who can heal by feats like body count feat and conqueror shield heal feat.

I'm looking foward to your response. Thanks in advance

[Alchemist-21-]

[Haemmerst0rm]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/133252273

Try dodging this mate rofl. No way to do this with this cheesing.

[Herbstlicht]

Well, if people really can win tournaments just by utilizing these moves, something is wrong. But i doubt it. For me, usually dodging works fine, though i HATE
shugoki in 4on4's.

By the way, i am not sure about it, but you need only time it right, and don't even get knocked down of narrow bridges by it. Did manage this with Orochi. Not with Nobushi though, yet.

[Bob__Gnarly]

Well if you stay in the Shugoki's face, he can't get a running start to perform the charge. For demons embrace, it's one of the easiest moves to dodge and if it misses he loses health, so it's risky. Top players will only use it after a wall throw.

[Haemmerst0rm]

At high level gameplay, there is literally not one hero that can counter this cheesing tactic. Its just cheesy and its a fact. I bet this isn't what ubisoft had in thought when creating this character. The game is about intense fights with skill. Not about running near ppl and falling because of the oni charge AND hitting them. They didn't design this game to be cheesy at all.

[palyftw]

Well if you stay in the Shugoki's face, he can't get a running start to perform the charge. For demons embrace, it's one of the easiest moves to dodge and if it misses he loses health, so it's risky. Top players will only use it after a wall throw.

You should watch some torneys them, because on the finals im seeing right now (https://www.twitch.tv/dmbrandon) this is the only thing the shugoki does

[Ezcendant]

You should watch some torneys them, because on the finals im seeing right now (https://www.twitch.tv/dmbrandon) this is the only thing the shugoki does

It's strange how sometimes it seems easily dodgeable and others not. But then I have the same issue using it. Sometimes charges that clearly hit won't, and others that clearly miss will knock the enemy down.

Just another buggy exploitative move in a buggy exploitative game I guess.

[Bob__Gnarly]

You should watch some torneys them, because on the finals im seeing right now (https://www.twitch.tv/dmbrandon) this is the only thing the shugoki does

Wow that was painful to watch... Shugoki v Shugoki in the finals too...

Looks like high level play has reached an all time low. And here I thought Conq cheese was bad, Petemoo totally destroyed that Conq in the semi.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

I always love seeing these threads.



Shugoki has so many weaknesses and things that you can exploit to beat him that its not even funny and yet people STILL complain.



Go to YouTube and watch some videos. Its literally a google click away.