PK doesn't need a change, but orochi needs change | Forums

[Simi_Xiamara_]

Lol I don't use orochi, only ever have done in story mode. I was just saying it is easy deflect, as in I do it regularly.

I do to but I have met a few orochi's who knew what they were doing and that's some scary sht. Granted 90% of people who play orochi have no idea wtf they are doing

[CandleInTheDark]

A guy literally held his back dash for ten seconds like he was playing chicken, dude I know my deflect timing. At least he wasn't salty when he bled out, saluted since he knew there was no taking me out before he was gone. Granted I haven't played in high level play one on one, I am working on getting my peacekeeper and later my warden to rep level three to change that.

[Ftefk0u]

PK is absolutely OK to beat

[Ftefk0u]

As warden, with your top light counter u naturally counter orochi. Don't come to pollute the forum when u ain't good enough. Go watch videos, and train some more.
Orochi ISNT OP. You absolutely cannot compare him to PK. Period.

IDK why you are getting so mad, maybe mad cuz bad ? or IDK. PK is absolutely OK no problem to beat

[Ftefk0u]

You are just bad.

/thread.

and you are mad, mad cuz bad ?

[Specialkha]

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Warden is top tier, while Orochi is mid tier.

We see warden regularly in tourney. Still waiting to see an Orochi.

Nuff said.

[Ftefk0u]

I think people should start complaining about bad connection (dominion), not heroes

[CandleInTheDark]

IDK why you are getting so mad, maybe mad cuz bad ? or IDK. PK is absolutely OK no problem to beat

Peacekeeper has a horrendous spam game that not only is getting people frustrated dealing with them but has turned off peacekeeper mains from using them, though they will need a second main if the momentum on banning from tournaments picks up. The main problem is that peacekeepers are one of the only classes, if not the only one, that can keep bad habits (outside of 'tech' abuses) picked up in low level play and keep using them in high level play.

And yes, I have mained peacekeeper and am picking the class up again after being one of those who finds the overpowered nature of her frustrating, there are issues and I am not the only peacekeeper main saying that..

[Epoqx]

Orochi isn't weak if that's what your trying say.
You have unlimited stamina compared to pk
Your zone attack and light can easily win you fights. Maybe some feints for more skilled players
Storm rush is a amazing skill. Hits hard can be combo into a 2 top lights or be feint into a guardbreak.
One only classes that get a free top heavy after guardbreak(other is nobushi)
Auto counter attacks after dodge (pretty much)

Tbh orochi is in a good spot. But a buff I'd like to see them get is make riptide strike (I think that's what it's called) a lil faster and make it unblockable and increase the damage on it but increase the recovery time on it.

I never said Orochi was weak. Donoo where u read that.

Orochi is limited to 2 things : Top light and Zone attack. He got no safe opener. You NEVER want to use storm rush at a good level of play.
Being a good orochi needs skill, and even at that level, u won't do much compared to top tier classes right now. That's exactly the results of tourneys. Orochi is in the middle tier atm.

PK does not necessarily need skill. We can cleary see it when a conqueror main plays PK lvl 8 in Tourney, and win against the top warden player. There are reasons why that class is banned in tourneys and getin' nerfs next patch.

IDK why you are getting so mad, maybe mad cuz bad ? or IDK. PK is absolutely OK no problem to beat

Probably because you are still playing in the middle level range, where PK's spam side step light and jump heavy.

[Danioku]

People saying : PK needs a nerf, not balanced... and nobody complain about orochi ? Fast spaming atacks = izi win
Every time when I play vs orochi I already throw and write GG (btw I am warden main)

How can you lose as Warden vs an Orochi ???

Poor Orochi needs a buff or a complete rework, atm he's totally trash