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    New Revenge mode question

    So now that it's getting nerfed pretty hard nobody is going to complain that you can never win a 1v2 situation or 1v3-4 etc? Get ready to be ganked by roaming groups hard. You'll get very few even fights, revenge was pretty easy to deal with it really kept the gank squads at a distance.
    I'll wait and see how it all plays out but ppl will get killed really fast now. I understand tweaking it some but seems like 20-30% drops on build up and damage done while in it. I just worry it's going to be premade grps trolling around laying waste.
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    Originally Posted by Cito2009 Go to original post
    So now that it's getting nerfed pretty hard nobody is going to complain that you can never win a 1v2 situation or 1v3-4 etc? Get ready to be ganked by roaming groups hard. You'll get very few even fights, revenge was pretty easy to deal with it really kept the gank squads at a distance.
    I'll wait and see how it all plays out but ppl will get killed really fast now. I understand tweaking it some but seems like 20-30% drops on build up and damage done while in it. I just worry it's going to be premade grps trolling around laying waste.
    If revenge is worthless in 1vX momments after update I'll just stop playing. Tera is coming to ps4 so ya not to worried if they fk the game up anymore
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    Revenge was only ever meant to give you a chance to survive, it should never have been a 'cool, I can kill 3 people and they can't kill me' thing.

    In most games, if you are alone and getting ganked, something else is wrong. Like why are you alone, where is the rest of your team. Or, if they are all ganking you, then they are not taking zones or dealing with your 3 team mates.

    What can this do, make you focus on your team, not play alone, not expect to take on superior odds like you are Superman? Good
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Revenge was only ever meant to give you a chance to survive, it should never have been a 'cool, I can kill 3 people and they can't kill me' thing.



    In most games, if you are alone and getting ganked, something else is wrong. Like why are you alone, where is the rest of your team. Or, if they are all ganking you, then they are not taking zones or dealing with your 3 team mates.

    What can this do, make you focus on your team, not play alone, not expect to take on superior odds like you are Superman? Good
    We will see... it was really easy to deal with when multiple ppl vs 1. All you had to do was back off or disable the player. A LOT of ppl are kill hungry and become idiots and just all out attack. I also don't want to feel like I have zero chance if the numbers are against you. 2v1 could be "why even bother fighting back?" Add in gank squads in elimination or skirmish and it's gonna get old real fast. Again, I'll wait and see but it could be ugly and not fun...
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Revenge was only ever meant to give you a chance to survive, it should never have been a 'cool, I can kill 3 people and they can't kill me' thing.

    In most games, if you are alone and getting ganked, something else is wrong. Like why are you alone, where is the rest of your team. Or, if they are all ganking you, then they are not taking zones or dealing with your 3 team mates.

    What can this do, make you focus on your team, not play alone, not expect to take on superior odds like you are Superman? Good
    Why are you alone lol..............
    Let me give you all the reasons why you are alone

    DOMINION
    1person on A boosting
    1person on C boosting
    1person on B boosting
    1person roaming (maybe?) I'm not sure what the last guy dose
    If A Or C leave their post to help you then that leaves it open to be stolen and gives less points
    *this is ASSUMING you are in a group*
    I don't play with a geoup so ya

    Elimination
    so dose this mean when my entire team dies I can just leave? What's the point lol I'll just go afk or leave. 1v4 with current revenge is hard enough (killing people is easy making sure they stay dead is the hard part)

    With current revenge it forces ppl come at you one at a time. Or turns you into a 4man army. Not mention they can still cc lock you
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    Originally Posted by Simi_Xiamara_ Go to original post
    Why are you alone lol..............
    Let me give you all the reasons why you are alone

    DOMINION
    1person on A boosting
    1person on C boosting
    1person on B boosting
    1person roaming (maybe?) I'm not sure what the last guy dose
    If A Or C leave their post to help you then that leaves it open to be stolen and gives less points
    *this is ASSUMING you are in a group*
    I don't play with a geoup so ya

    Elimination
    so dose this mean when my entire team dies I can just leave? What's the point lol I'll just go afk or leave. 1v4 with current revenge is hard enough (killing people is easy making sure they stay dead is the hard part)

    With current revenge it forces ppl come at you one at a time. Or turns you into a 4man army. Not mention they can still cc lock you


    Or you could fight near hazards. It's your best chance.
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    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post

    Or you could fight near hazards. It's your best chance.
    Your trying to survive not die faster
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    Originally Posted by Simi_Xiamara_ Go to original post
    Your trying to survive not die faster
    So.....you're going to whittle down 4 health bars of varying lengths the slow way? Then you'll just decrease you chances of winning.
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    Quoted wrong, my correct quote below
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Revenge was only ever meant to give you a chance to survive, it should never have been a 'cool, I can kill 3 people and they can't kill me' thing.

    In most games, if you are alone and getting ganked, something else is wrong. Like why are you alone, where is the rest of your team. Or, if they are all ganking you, then they are not taking zones or dealing with your 3 team mates.

    What can this do, make you focus on your team, not play alone, not expect to take on superior odds like you are Superman? Good
    Reasons are;

    -you cannot choose your teammates by yourself
    -you cannot decide which level teammates you will have
    -you donot know if he had afk'ed for that level or not
    -you are not superman so you can got rekt by an environmental hazard on full health (right?)
    -you cannot decide how will game balance the teams from gear level manner

    do you want me to add that?

    I think if revenge got serious nerf, then there is no meaning for playind 4v4 modes. The fun is being rekt by one guy while ganging on him/her. If it is for sure to not be able to surve in 1v4, then standing still will be much more effecting way to die and wait for game end loot.

    One suggestion by the way, if the revenge will be nerfed, then attack power or damage dealing should be changed while ganging on someone. For example, lets assume it is 1v4 in a match, if every one got honor and wait for 1v1 ending, then that one guy attacking should have full attack and damage power. If another guy decided to attack simultaneously, then damage dealing can cut into half, for the third one, one third and for the forth one one forth.

    So, that one guy will be like fighting one guy buy from all directions with very high possibility to contiounsly got hit. If he activates revenge, then everyone's damage deal can be increased immediately for a certain percentage. This is my idea. Seems logical but can have problems inside it which i could not think of yet.
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