Nobushi Issues / Balance Suggestions | Forums

[RunnerRunner22]

I would consider Valkyries leg sweep being close to a 50/50. It comes out so fast that you basically have to dodge directly after her second light or bash. If she goes for a GB instead, you're screwed. Also, Shugoki's running attack is a 50/50.

[RunnerRunner22]

what we need is less attack damage in revenge mode. it is bullcrap she can revenge block you on attack and just do the zone attack and kill a full health lawbringer. it is rediculus to say at least. a little girl can kill a big axe wielding guy with 2 hits after his attack bounced of her head like she is some trampoline

This seems to more of a gear balance issue. I am pretty sure that a revenge ZA without gear does not kill a full health LB.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

I would consider Valkyries leg sweep being close to a 50/50. It comes out so fast that you basically have to dodge directly after her second light or bash. If she goes for a GB instead, you're screwed. Also, Shugoki's running attack is a 50/50.

Makes sense, however you can reaction dodge the leg sweep, but is admittedly difficult to do. That leads to a free GB afterwards.The Shugoki has to be sprinting for a good couple seconds to trigger his as well and can't really cancel into anything if dodged. The Nobushi 50/50 as you say it would be along the lines of the Warden, not these characters.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

This seems to more of a gear balance issue. I am pretty sure that a revenge ZA without gear does not kill a full health LB.

If it doesn't kill, it will bring him to the last bar of health.

[RunnerRunner22]

If it doesn't kill, it will bring him to the last bar of health.

That would indeed be ridiculous if true. I will try it out. However, the revenge system needs a complete rework anyways, this is not a Nobushi-specific issue in my opinion.

[Dizzy4213]

I think it would be great if they brought back the Sidewinder into dash into kick mix-up. If I remember correctly it was stealth patched during the Open Beta. I know it was a bug, but taking it away really hurt Nobushi.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

That would indeed be ridiculous if true. I will try it out. However, the revenge system needs a complete rework anyways, this is not a Nobushi-specific issue in my opinion.

It is truly rampant amongst the Nobushi and Warlord.
The Nobushi will wait until you attack, activate revenge and get a free ZA.
The Warlord will headbutt for a free heavy, into another headbutt, possibly 2 shotting a player.

[RunnerRunner22]

It is truly rampant amongst the Nobushi and Warlord.
The Nobushi will wait until you attack, activate revenge and get a free ZA.
The Warlord will headbutt for a free heavy, into another headbutt, possibly 2 shotting a player.

How is this (talking about Nobushi, Warlord's headbutt knockdown is just insane) different than any other class? Warden gets a free top heavy, Berserker even gets two free heavies (I think?) etc. The revenge knock down with a subsequent free heavy is broken on any class.

[Oupyz]

the main problem with Nobushi is her freaking hidden stance is very slow to activate , it kills the class totally and there's a bug with it , if you are switching guards you cannot activate hidden stance , it must work like warlord shield no matter what you're doing , once u press hidden stance it must go into hidden stance 70% of Nobushi problems fixed there

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

How is this (talking about Nobushi, Warlord's headbutt knockdown is just insane) different than any other class? Warden gets a free top heavy, Berserker even gets two free heavies (I think?) etc. The revenge knock down with a subsequent free heavy is broken on any class.

While it is too powerful all around, these to stand out as they are the only ones with the capability to one shot from the knock own alone, or at least from a chain in the Warlord's case.