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[Porch-Skunk]

So as a player who loves warden, I do also see that compared to other classes he needs a change. I say a fair change to lessen the OP would be to make it so you cannot shoulder bash INTO guard break. You should have to feint the SB, then GB, not SB to GB. I think this fix would make it still viable while taking out the unfair advantage of being able to use either on a whim.

Just my two cents though....

[UbiJurassic]

Thanks for the suggestion jacoblwade127! Any other warden players have thought on this?

[MassiveD.]

So as a player who loves warden, I do also see that compared to other classes he needs a change. I say a fair change to lessen the OP would be to make it so you cannot shoulder bash INTO guard break. You should have to feint the SB, then GB, not SB to GB. I think this fix would make it still viable while taking out the unfair advantage of being able to use either on a whim.

Just my two cents though....

Absolutely not.

My hands are tired from explaining to people that shoulder bash / shoulder bash into guardbreak ....


IS COUNTERABLE BY A SIMPLE LIGHT ATTACK

Only begginers get steamrolled by wardens vortex, anyone who played PVP for a while is immune to it, heck even bots are beggining to figure it out

[XImohtephXX]

I agree. It is already a very strong move netting a light combo if it hits or an overhead heavy when charged. Leaving the ability to cancel it would still make a safer ability but as it stands when out of stamina there is no more punishing combo. Screwed if you dodge screwed if you dont. It would also in my opinion let the warden shine as an individual character rather then just a combo machine.

[secrecy274]

Absolutely not.

My hands are tired from explaining to people that shoulder bash / shoulder bash into guardbreak ....


IS COUNTERABLE BY A SIMPLE LIGHT ATTACK

Only begginers get steamrolled by wardens vortex, anyone who played PVP for a while is immune to it, heck even bots are beggining to figure it out

And as I've pointed out to you, some characters doesn't have fast enough light attacks, and a good Warden can cancel into a parry.

[MassiveD.]

And as I've pointed out to you, a good Warden can cancel into a parry.

Actually you've pointed out to me that they "can cancel inot a counter", after which I explained to you sideways light is enough.

I'm having hard time imagining how a warden can cancel from shoulder bash to parry that quickly especially against a light attack.

You would need a coked-up Korean to parry a Valkeries light attack in that situation, and even then it's most likely impossible.

I;m gonna try and suspend my disbelief here, but continue to doubt that there are more than 2 people on the planet who can actually do that, and if htey can - kudos to them, they deserve to win.

Meanwhile getting back to earth, OP doesn't even know he can counter shoulder bash by light attacks, so why not concentrate on that for now?

[Netcode_err_404]

Absolutely not.

My hands are tired from explaining to people that shoulder bash / shoulder bash into guardbreak ....


IS COUNTERABLE BY A SIMPLE LIGHT ATTACK

Only begginers get steamrolled by wardens vortex, anyone who played PVP for a while is immune to it, heck even bots are beggining to figure it out

Can you explain us why he should be able to cancel the bash into a GB MID animation and getting a free r2 which is 2 bars of damage ?

Can you explain us why on top of that he has a up light parry that deals a lot of damage ?

Can you explain me why he needs yto be superior in every aspect to the others 2 vanguards ?


THE FIX is simple here OP.

Make sure he can cancel its bash only with an heavy attack, so he can double feint it giving you the time to react. Simple.
And of course if ubisoft doesn't want to add cooldown to limit this spam madness, double the stamina consume

[MassiveD.]

Can you explain us why he should be able to cancel the bash into a GB MID animation and getting a free r2 which is 2 bars of damage ?

Can you explain us why on top of that he has a up light parry that deals a lot of damage ?

Can you explain me why he needs yto be superior in every aspect to the others 2 vanguards ?


THE FIX is simple here OP.

Make sure he can cancel its bash only with an heavy attack, so he can double feint it giving you the time to react. Simple.
And of course if ubisoft doesn't want to add cooldown to limit this spam madness, double the stamina consume

Can you explain why the sky is blue and bears sh*t in the wood?

The answer is simple, because he is designed that way.

If you think he's so OP, go and play warden all day long, you'll soon see the error in your ways when you wont be able to land a single shoulder charge.

All characters have strenghts and weaknesses, also talking about vanguards, tournament showed that raiders absolutely shreked wardens, altho those raiders knew how to play, so your mileage may vary

[Netcode_err_404]

Can you explain why the sky is blue and bears sh*t in the wood?

The answer is simple, because he is designed that way.

If you think he's so OP, go and play warden all day long, you'll soon see the error in your ways when you wont be able to land a single shoulder charge.

All characters have strenghts and weaknesses, also talking about vanguards, tournament showed that raiders absolutely shreked wardens, altho those raiders knew how to play, so your mileage may vary

With your attitude, you would win every tourney even before they start.

I brought facts, you answered with nonsenses. Good luck with your life.

[MassiveD.]

With your attitude, you would win every tourney even before they start.

I brought facts, you answered with nonsenses. Good luck with your life.

You ignored my facts, so I ignored your hyperbole.

Warden's vortex is counterable by light attacks, case closed.


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