For Honor reaches record low player count, soon to be dead on PC platform. | Forums

[CitizenPuddi]

What you are saying is what i just discussed to be a problem. You are actually agreeing with me.

You stated the reason for all the players leaving is that its too hard.

Do you have data on this? Too big difference on K/D from top players to bottom? Not the case sir.

Other games considered as hard, just as a comparison for your false statement'? Sure!


Rust is considered to be a hard game to master. Not loosing players like FH.
Siege is considered a hard game to master, not loosing players like FH. Actually gaining them.
Dark Souls III is considered hard, althought not a MP game, still not loosing players like FH.
Dirt Rally, hard game to master, not loosing players like FH.
War THunder, free game, hard to master. Although its years old, still more popular than FH.


I guess you just lost an argument. Better call me something hurtful again, since that is your only way to "win" this.

It's not loosing games that's flooding the forums, it's the connection. I would reckon the chance of winning a game in FH actually is higher, considering that the game has such a low playercount and has not been around for long.

For Honor is structured more like a fighting game than any other genre.

Perhaps compare apples to apples and take a gander at metrics for other fighting games on PC?

[cha_cha_cha-2.0]

Man you're right, from top to bottom. Don't even try to argue with denial ppl. But, in spite of this, I'm hoping it gets better: connectivity issues, balanced heroes, revenge mode, stupid feats, matchmaking, everything. They still can make it right.

[RatedChaotic]

As I already replied to your comment in the other thread:

The player base is decreasing not because of problems, it's decreasing because people are gettign absolutely destroyed in this vicious, brutal, and unforgiving game.

This was the most predictable thing in history.


No matter how many problems there would be, if the game was enjoyable for you - you would still play it no matter how many problems it had, and just wait for fixes.

As I said before, Star Craft came out in year 1855 or whatever, and to this very day it is being patched and balanced monthly, FH has been out for month and a half, and if you expect it to be perfect straight away, you are simply ridiculous, there is no better word for it.

On the other hand, if you are not a battle hardened fighter game ace, you will have a very bad time in the first week online in For Honor, as you will get absolutely destroyed and streamrolled by more experienced players, and most likely quit on day one, because there are not that many players out there who can die 100 times over and over without getting salty

Honestly, it would be a smart idea to not even let people play PVP untill they complete a 1000 games VS bots, they would git gut more in the process and be ready for PVP.

This is the major, if not the only reason why player base is declining.

I do not understand why was that not enough and you had to start a whole new thread just to copy paste your comment

I find it very interesting that many articles say otherwise. But you are the only one I seen that states the playerbase is dropping because the bad players are quiting the game because of the good players. I bet some left because they were getting destroyed but to say they all did ...... is just plain stupidity on your part.

Get a better broadband? Dumbest argument ever. If theres requirements on the box it should be playable with those requirements. If I need your perfect connection to play this game.....Then the box should say.....Requires MassiveD's awesome internet connection to play.

Tho with my mediocre internet I run the game fine without issues. I also know there are players experiencing more issues than me.

[LordEythir]

This is a very reasoned thread with decent points(which I wasn't expecting from the we are doomed in the title), if most threads were like this (and there were a few less of them) I don't think players would have as much of an issue as they do. The problem is most threads go like this.

OMG YOU SUCK **** I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS (insert gripe here) IS BROKEN FOR TWO DAYS AND IT HASN'T BEEN FIXED YET. I ****ING QUIT AND WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!111!!

That doesn't get anyone anywhere and it just causes the players who are waiting for ubisoft to get stuff together to either ignore yet another rant or reply and possibly get a little saltier than they would have. Not that I am saying this thread is a problem or you are, just that I can understand the other side of it.

Says CandleInTheDark the FANBOY who goes around to other people threads saying there complaints are invalid......THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS POST IS DISCOURAGING!!!
whether you want to see it or not, things are broken and you crusading to defend the title is not helping anyone.

Oh and still waiting for your tag to 1v1, really need to do some skulldragggging.

[MassiveD.]

What you are saying is what i just discussed to be a problem. You are actually agreeing with me.

You stated the reason for all the players leaving is that its too hard.

Do you have data on this? Too big difference on K/D from top players to bottom? Not the case sir.

Other games considered as hard, just as a comparison for your false statement'? Sure!


Rust is considered to be a hard game to master. Not loosing players like FH.
Siege is considered a hard game to master, not loosing players like FH. Actually gaining them.
Dark Souls III is considered hard, althought not a MP game, still not loosing players like FH.
Dirt Rally, hard game to master, not loosing players like FH.
War THunder, free game, hard to master. Although its years old, still more popular than FH.


I guess you just lost an argument. Better call me something hurtful again, since that is your only way to "win" this.

It's not loosing games that's flooding the forums, it's the connection. I would reckon the chance of winning a game in FH actually is higher, considering that the game has such a low playercount and has not been around for long.

No actually I do not agree with you.

And for your given game examples, I love how non of them come even remotely close to being of any relevance nor directly comparable to FH.

If you want to compare other games to FH, how about Street Fighter? How about Mortal Kombat? How about Star Craft 2?

All of these games are not main-stream games that are NOT being played by milions of players, infact they are niche and have tiny dedicated player basis, simply because the games are way too hard for your avarage player, and FH slips directly between Street Fighter and SC2.

Alot of casuals stay away from these games because they are too afraid of being shreked by 400 APM Koreans, and FH fits all of the above criteria.

The only way to really attract the normies, is to give them more advanced PVE scene (like dungeon raiding, and fighting bosses), which is not out of the question, might even be fun if implemented well.

Other than that , forget about it, no matter how much you balance the game, if you are not that good of it and can't hold your own, 400 APM Koreans will trash your will to live and make you rage quit eventualy.

And that is exactly what happeend to the population my dude, in the beta the player scene was not that diverse, so you did not meet super pros that often, everybody was good, and got their hopes up thinking that they will continue to be good, a fantasy that got immediately smashed when Street Fighter and Dark Souls multiplayer scene switched over to FH shreking normies left and right, sending them into the furious rage on the forums trying to blame lag, and overpowered characters, and everything else but not them, because that would be unthinkable.

[MassiveD.]

I bet some left because they were getting destroyed but to say they all did ...... is just plain stupidity on your part.

It correlates with history of other hard games out there, therefore its a more sophisticated theory than everyone left because Warden was too OP

[CitizenPuddi]

Yeh, looking at the metrics for other top-selling fighting games on Steam.

Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
231 playing currently
430 24-hour peak
1,706 all-time peak

Street Fighter V
1,569 playing currently
1,678 24-hour peak
13,807 all-time peak

DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE 2
1,188 playing currently
1,367 24-hour peak
13,570 all-time peak

Mortal Kombat X
962 playing currently
1,187 24-hour peak
13,649 all-time peak

Chivalry: Medieval Warfare
1,175 playing currently
1,487 24-hour peak
23,094 all-time peak

For Honor
8,397 playing currently
8,822 24-hour peak
45,923 all-time peak

[solho]

This post did not to generate fights among the community, unfortunately the game is dying because of ubisoft. And although those people who say "but if you do not like do not play", it is not so.
They have to understand that if we now have problems of pairing and a mm with great delays, imagine when the average for weekends is 500 to 1000 people, double delays and twice mismatch.
The game is a wonder but ubisoft is a mediocre company, and if we as a community fight for the simple fact that some do not want to see reality and are a fan, the only thing that we provoke is that this mediocre company ignores us more.
I really do not want this game to die, but I think it's too late.

[MassiveD.]

Yeh, looking at the metrics for other top-selling fighting games on Steam.

Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
231 playing currently
430 24-hour peak
1,706 all-time peak

Street Fighter V
1,569 playing currently
1,678 24-hour peak
13,807 all-time peak

DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE 2
1,188 playing currently
1,367 24-hour peak
13,570 all-time peak

Mortal Kombat X
962 playing currently
1,187 24-hour peak
13,649 all-time peak

Chivalry: Medieval Warfare
1,175 playing currently
1,487 24-hour peak
23,094 all-time peak

For Honor
8,397 playing currently
8,822 24-hour peak
45,923 all-time peak

LOL, wow, I actually never looked at these, yet somehow managed to predict exactly this.

As if some mysterious ... common sense like... force was guiding me.

Thank you for this post Sir, it perfectly wraps up the cries and moans

[CitizenPuddi]

unfortunately the game is dying

how are you coming to this conclusion?