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[xjlxking]

I get it! The developers wanted to design a system to make sure that a player who gets attacked by multiple opposing players would have an opportunity to defeat them/ The problem is, while this mechanic somewhat does solve the issue, it also creates a new unhealthy issue

I only have one character under prestige one. I don't play this game a lot. Uplay has me under 29. I'm not saying, I'm a bad player. In fact, i do quite well despite running into players who are prestige 4+. The bottom line is, prestige does not define how good you are, just how long you have grinded the exp for. The issue is, whenever I play dominion or a mode who allows for gear, I run into people with gear score of 108+.

They are not good players. They have a hard time countering a guard break, let alone wining a 1v1. Yet, they constantly winning 1v2. Why? because when they get matched vs player who have a gear score of 25 or less, they have a advantage. I just tested in a game i had. The guy literally and purposely runs into 2v1's knowing that he only needs to block 3-4 hits from the enemy to fully charge his revenge bar.

That's now how the mechanic is suppose to work. We ended up winning the game despite not killing him. It was a repeat of him constantly getting revenge for blocking 3 hits, then healing up because of a passive, and proceeding to survive until another revenge bar was full....interesting mechanic. So now... the only way players have learned to deal with it is to spam some sort of anti-block attack in hope of making sure the player does not get a chance to even attack. A warlord like myself will spam headbutt. Every character has that attack that makes revenge redundant

My point being in this entire rant is that

While revenge does help some players stay alive in a2v1 to even turn the tide of the battle, it gets abused by gear. Getting a full revenge bar by blocking ~3 attacks when out numbered is too easy. Further more, experienced players have already learned how to deal with revenge players..by out spamming the revenge ability. The game which is suppose to be tactical devolves into a spam fest.

[Thinkin0ut]

My only problem with revenge is when people get it in 1v1. Its a free kill. But when people get it in 2v2, they usually just spam. Parrying works for me. If hes attacking you than dont try to attack back because your hits wont stun em and he'll get free hits for whopping damage. Also when they get it, fall back cause if they pop it while your hitting them and your below half health, your basically dead. Youll fall to the ground and get decimated.

[UbiJurassic]

We are currently investigating ways we can adjust our revenge gear to promote healthy use of the revenge mechanic. We hope to have more news to share regarding that soon.

[Haemmerst0rm]

We are currently investigating ways we can adjust our revenge gear to promote healthy use of the revenge mechanic. We hope to have more news to share regarding that soon.

I hope you're doing something about revenge on PK, orichi and nobushi too. Their zone attack spam in revenge is really the most stupid mechanic in this game imo. Always spamming zone attack where you do the first attack to hit, but cancels the second attack. This is cheesing and cheesing is really bad for this game!

Please consider this: let the zone attack only be ONE attack instead of two like peacekeeper and nobushi. Warlord has one ZA. Orichi has one ZA. Warden has one ZA. Make it one attack instead of ridiculous 2 where you can cancel the second attack!

[UbiJurassic]

I hope you're doing something about revenge on PK, orichi and nobushi too. Their zone attack spam in revenge is really the most stupid mechanic in this game imo. Always spamming zone attack where you do the first attack to hit, but cancels the second attack. This is cheesing and cheesing is really bad for this game!

Please consider this: let the zone attack only be ONE attack instead of two like peacekeeper and nobushi. Warlord has one ZA. Orichi has one ZA. Warden has one ZA. Make it one attack instead of ridiculous 2 where you can cancel the second attack!

While I can't say that we're working on adjusting revenge for specific characters, that doesn't mean we won't look into it for the future. If there is a problem with certain heroes in revenge mode, we'll be sure to investigate and analyze the game data to make a educated decision. I'll be sure to note your suggestion regarding the zone attacks. We've seen a lot of feedback regarding it and we're always looking for suggestions on how we can create a fair balance.

[TCTF_SWAT]

If someone is spamming nothing but ZA's in revenge just parry it then....seriously.....

Of all ZA's nobushi's should not be spamming them. Sure it's the most damaging ZA but.....it ain't fast. It's what I expect now fom every nobushi who uses revenge. They just end up getting parried or long armed or shield bashed till their revenge runs out.

[Haemmerst0rm]

While I can't say that we're working on adjusting revenge for specific characters, that doesn't mean we won't look into it for the future. If there is a problem with certain heroes in revenge mode, we'll be sure to investigate and analyze the game data to make a educated decision. I'll be sure to note your suggestion regarding the zone attacks. We've seen a lot of feedback regarding it and we're always looking for suggestions on how we can create a fair balance.

Glad to hear that! Btw where are our elite outfits?

[sykout25]

If they nerf revenge mode, how the hell will anyone go against 3-4 people going around in gank squads? PURE LUCK?

[Vordred]

i'd love a Hardcore mode where Revenge is completely turned off and instead add full team damage. you meant to fight multiple people with good positioning and good use of surroundings to limit your attackers to fighting you one at a time. and realistically your not meant win a 3v1.

but i guess that the thing these days everyone everyone moans it's not fair, my precious K/D is going down.

[sykout25]

i'd love a Hardcore mode where Revenge is completely turned off and instead add full team damage. you meant to fight multiple people with good positioning and good use of surroundings to limit your attackers to fighting you one at a time. and realistically your not meant win a 3v1.

but i guess that the thing these days everyone everyone moans it's not fair, my precious K/D is going down.

If you weren't supposed to have a chance in a 3v1 at all, then this game's 4v4 would be boring AF. Revenge mode gives the game some FUN aspect. BUT, i agree - there should just be that hardcore option rather than remove it altogether.