Ok ive been playing this game since day1, so i know my stuff been on the forums for a very long times so i always no whats happening and build tips. Last night i was playing last stand after this casper glitch was fixed. But i noticed my build isnt just cutting it, i could average 9-15 kills per game but now im getting killed like crazy i was lucky to get 2-3 kills per game. Im running half exotic/gold build with barrets chest, skull gloves, ferro mask. In last stand my stats are 6900 stamina comes out to 434k toughness 5200 firearms comes out to 412k dps im running LVOAC as my primary, LW m4 as my secondary. The weapon talents are brutal,unforgiving,responsive,deadlyas i keep them on all my AR's. But anyways i seem to be getting melted now with ease against other players especially at the capture B away point thats inside that building where you have to go up stairs. I noticed everyone is running SMG's like mp5/mp7/Aug, now i will even come up to a player who doesnt see me shoot him to the point he's now down to 1 bar then he has enough time to turn around and melt me with one clip of his SMG. Im not quite getting it, i have more toughness than you for sure, yes i know youre stacked in firearms possibly but how do i get downed in a clip or even half a clip? Also i seen people running LW m4's with disgusting damage i got melted with that faster than SMG's did me. I even went toe to toe with another player my LVOAC with brutal,responsive,unforgiving and he melted me with his m4 like i was shooting at him with a water gun. So i try stacking fire arms instead of stamina, yes my gun got stronger but i died even quicker. So now im stuck on what i need to do for my build. The only thing i noticed that gave me a fighting chance was my bullfrog which i had no problem downing players but its just too unstable. I strictly use lvoa/m4 for the most part because whenever i use a SMG it doesnt get the job done for me. Also i noticed i was taking damage last night but no one was shooting at me, it was like i was under a slow burning/bleeding status effect but no one was around the players were fighting upstairs while i was downstairs but i still took damage. So yeah any advice from the vets in the game, lol cant believe im asking because i consider myself i pretty good player but i got wrecked last night every match.
Drop your toughness for sure I run with 300-320k toughness depending on builds, get your firearms up. Have crit hit chance and crit hit damage where possible on gear. On your gloves make sure you have crit hit chance and assault rifle +smg damage. I run with a M4 and a converted smg 9 or mp5 St, also another good tip is stick with your teammates and retreat when you know your heading into a losing battle and wait for backup. Because if you get focused by a few players you will be dead in seconds.
Yeah i tend to some what wonder off from team mates or dont wait for them and just go into fighting other players by myself. I noticed everytime we lost the other players opposite team would be in groups of 5 or 6 just destroying everyone in sight. But the few times i caught a player by himself 1v1 id still get downed light i was nothing. I have CHC/CHD on my weapon attachments and my skull gloves which has AR damage & CHD. Im not sure though whenever i drop my toughness and bring up my fire arms to about 6500 i do a little more damage but get downed faster. Im running the best talents in the game for a AR which isnt helping, Some players pop a health before engaging in a fire fight with me which im guessing is competent, but i dont use competent just because i only get that bonus damage only when popping health or heal. The best weapon that i had which i had no problems downing players was a LVOAC with responsive,unforgiving,intense but i accidently deconstructed it. I dont wanna run a gear set because i like my skull gloves but its just not cutting it. I did take my Alpha bridge out my stash to put on with 330kdps/450k toughness didnt do too bad it actually put up a good fight, but felt my guns were weak but downed players over time im guessing because of my weapon talents along with my toughness they couldnt down me id eventually win.Originally Posted by Swfc4eva1 Go to original post
Well people pop heal for booster shot and competent, I use neither as I'm a team player and use defib to pick people up. Also you could try running a tenacious mask for that extra 10% boost when you pop a med. I presume you have on the move and critical save as your talents? Atm my favourite build is 3 Banshee and 3 predator but I also run striker which is very effective. Obviously i run a high end as well and I'm usually in top 2, so I know I'm doing something right and barely get my *** handed to me.
Damage, without touching toughness or firearms comes from one place: crit damage. Of course, you have Main weapon damage increase on Gloves, MC Gloves, Tenacious, Barret's, and every other form of burst damage, but crit damage will be your "safety net" per say, meaning once you've run out of burst, you'll have your crit damage percentage to keep you afloat, depending on how much you have.
People are running SMGs more now, because of the baked in Crit Chance they have, making it easier to hit a solid crit chance range, and allowing you to stack crit damage. Assault Rifles are not gonna get a high crit chance rating. So the meta is either Brutal or Crit Chance, or TrashEye.
Sounds like damage over time from SeekersOriginally Posted by Eckoman2k Go to original post
Lmao, I see why you stick with your team.Originally Posted by Swfc4eva1 Go to original post
Anyways, one thing you don't want to suggest to someone is for them to stack firearms indefinitely.
I don't know about your situation, it seems one of those weird things this game is famous for.Originally Posted by Eckoman2k Go to original post
I would only say that if your Bullfrog is doing the job it might be worth persevering with it.
The Bullfrog is my go to, default AR that I carry all the time.
That and my M700 Tactical is what I run all the time.
Yes, the Bullfrog is a pain to handle with its recoil, but if you can control if in short bursts it is worth the extra effort.
Yeah i know, im just trying to figure out the proper build its PVP you know i might of simply been out played thats how it goes i cant get mad. I was good in last stand when it first came out up until this week which ive barely won matches or getting just 1 sealed cache lol. I run out like rambo but clearly im not anymore ill either get face tanked by a SMG/AR build stacked with possibly fire arms or get taken down by a Sniper in 2-3 shots. I wish they'd allow Alpha Bridge to have 5 talents instead of 4 because id for sure go back to that build in my stash which is collecting dust. Id use brutal,deadly,responsive,unforgiving,competent![]()
Well my 9000+ firearms builds melt people and that's what the OP wants, I did also mention crit chance and crit damage like you did. And yeah I stick with teammates after all it's a team game. No matter what your toughness is if you go lone Wolf and run into a group of 4 you are dead.Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
You don't run into 1 v 4s intentionally, though.Originally Posted by Swfc4eva1 Go to original post