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[Alustar.exe]

So with this logic that its NOT PAY TO WIN, so if playing to get reputation 3 would take 4months of 4hours playtime everyday, you would still not consider it pay to win?
Imo i think its pay-to-win aswell, you pay to get an advantage- very simple logic.

It should be removed imo the pay-to-get gear. Cosmetics taking a long time is fine imo, its a nice reward after playing a class for a long time. Perhaps lower it a bit idk but its still just cosmetics.
Buying gear should be removed for money.

The game has only been out 5 weeks, I would be impressed if you had played for more than 2 months

Lol, I honestly thought it had been longer, I didn't pick it up at launch.
Guess it good to show you how much fun I've been having. I can't eve tell time properly! XD

[Alustar.exe]

I guess since I'm rep3 and have all purple gear except that one blue I have. If I dont play and just buy boxes to get my final purple instead of grinding for it that wasnt me paying to win that gear. huh? lmao ok.

Since you want to argue semantics, there is a vast difference between paying for an extra chance at marginally better gear, and assuming that paying is going to give you a win hands down.
If the gear drops from chests you purchase through real world currency is better and more common than what is given out to the rest of the player base, then yes hands down it's pay to win. However, This model is set up mainly to assist players that can't or won't spend the time grinding the steel they need, and since they typically have more expendable income, they have other options.

Complaining that this game is pay to win is simply indicative of a scrub player that can't be ****ed to farm for himself for whatever reason and probably doesn't have the dispense cash flow either. So instead he is upset over "sour grapes" rather than playing like the rest of us.

[Gray360UK]

I guess since I'm rep3 and have all purple gear except that one blue I have. If I dont play and just buy boxes to get my final purple instead of grinding for it that wasnt me paying to win that gear. huh? lmao ok.

You've totally changed the subject matter in a really bizarre way.
We are talking about paying to win a fight against another player.
Being better than everyone else (see Urban Dictionary definition you quoted).
Not paying to 'win' an item of gear.
This isn't a debate about being able to win items like getting a teddy bear at the funfair.
Did you just take an overdose of stupid pills or something?
That is not what was ever meant by anyone in this thread ever when they talked about 'pay to win'.
This is quite possibly the most enormous goalpost shift I have ever seen on a forum.
You're nuts.

[Blasto95]

Funny how you think my defintion is dumb dumb dumb. But when you google the definition of pay to win. Thats what it says. lol

Youre still not answerign my question. Is Rainbow Six Siege in your opinion pay to win? It really is a simple yes or no question.

[RatedChaotic]

You've totally changed the subject matter in a really bizarre way. Is it just out of desperation / refusal to admit you might be wrong about something / anything?
We are talking about paying to win a fight against another playing.
Not paying to 'win' an item of gear.
That is not what was ever meant by anyone in this thread ever when they talked about 'pay to win'.
Most enromous goalpost shift I have ever seen on a forum.
You're nuts.

I'm the desperate one lmao. You got served and your afraid to admit it.

[RatedChaotic]

Youre still not answerign my question. Is Rainbow Six Siege in your opinion pay to win? It really is a simple yes or no question.

I'm not even going to answer you. So stop asking. How should I know? I've never played it.

[Alustar.exe]

Youre still not answerign my question. Is Rainbow Six Siege in your opinion pay to win? It really is a simple yes or no question.

He went answer those because it would lend him to possibly being proven wrong.
It's much easier and safer to dance around simple typos and argue semantics instead of the actual topic.
This guy sounds like Clinton trying to justify how a hummer isn't sexual contact.

[Blasto95]

I'm not even going to answer you. So stop asking. How should I know? I've never played it.

Ok. I'll accept that. Thats all you needed to say.

R6S allows you to purchase items in the game. 99% of those items are fluff. However there are gun attachments that you can buy (for cheap) that do enhance your gameplay. By your definition, a player could purchase those items with money and have advantage over another new player who did not purchase these items. Technically correct, but if you played R6S or know of anyone that does, they would tell you that advantage is so small and so short lived that calling it a P2W game would be asinine. So just because by technicality it may abide by the definition, it still does not make it a legitimate P2W game.

I consider a P2W game where you can only attain an item by realistic means through purchase. All items in For Honor and R6S, save for fluff, are attainable by even the most casual player.

[guor6800]

I guess since I'm rep3 and have all purple gear except that one blue I have. If I dont play and just buy boxes to get my final purple instead of grinding for it that wasnt me paying to win that gear. huh? lmao ok.

Mate if you pay to get the last purple item, but because you are unlucky you dont get the purple item with the stats you would like on your char does this still count as buy-to-win? Also how much have you spent before reaching rep 3? My main is rep 7. No steel bought got 108 gear and some cosmetics. Now lvling up my second char he is rep 1 at 15-20 gear. By the time i get rep 3 i would have the required steel to make him at least 80+gear.

No offense man but if you consider this pay-to-win you clearly haven't felt how it is to actually lose because the other guy has better gear because of money.

[Alustar.exe]

Point of order, I've been in matches with a single 108, let's assume he posted for his gear. My teams have beaten others with higher rated gear. But by this methodology they should have won because they paid for gear, right? So why do they lose?
Now, true that's a team death match, so what about 1v1? In duels and brawls, start weights aren't affected, do your gear is moot.