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[DrinkinMyStella]

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I saw this video and this YouTuber worked out that if you pay for all the characters to max gear score it works out at $700.
If you play without the aid of steel packs it will take the average player who play 1-3 hours approximately 2 years to complete the gear score.
I personally when i first got my main to rep 3 spend about £50 to get enough steel to max gear score him.

Does anyone else find this a bit excessive for ubisoft to make steel that hard to get that you have to pay to win.

Whats everyone elses view?

[RatedChaotic]

Got mine to rep 3 GS 90 in about 2 weeks and spent 0 dollars on gear boxes. I even got the game a week after release.

[Plutonium Bug]

Multiple topics on this but I will put my view again here as well.

I think the problem with steel really starts when you play multiple characters like me. I don't have any emotes/executions or that lightning flame bs. I managed to get my main 108 on rep 5 my second is on 93 on rep 4 and my third is a rep 2 and solid blue 54.
But seriously the amount of steel that it cost to get from 102 to 108 is ridiculous. 360 steel from level 17 to 18 so 360 x 6 = 2160
From start of heroic gear = level 13 to 18 is 1575 x 6 = 9450
And not to mention you don't want to upgrade gear with the wrong stats so you will need to buy crates till you have found the right gear for your character. so lets say after opening 10 boxes you probably have most of it. 10 x 500 = 5k
So when you hit rep 3 you need around 15k to get to max gear.
And here is where the problem really starts if you want any emotes executions or effects.
Lets say you want one of each we go with the 3k ornament 5k execution and a effect (cant remember how much but lets say 5k) total of looks = 13K
So to get max gear + 1 change of every thingy = 15K + 13K = 28K
And lets say you got 2 pieces of armor with the right stats but they look horrible so you change 2 of them = +/- 1K

Total 29K for a complete character

So around 3 weeks for a complete character if you do all the orders every single day and all the 48 hour ones. (I am full time working so no chance on that).

And I think this is the real reason they need to put it up a bit so people will play with multiple characters instead of their one main.
It takes too long to get good gear and everybody is stuck with their main which makes it hard to switch around as you know you will be facing at least 1 or 2 108's and 1 or 2 far in purple and 1 blue/grey dude.

[itsPlanB]

Pay to win implies that if you never play you can still get the best gear. You can't.

[Plutonium Bug]

Pay to win implies that if you never play you can still get the best gear. You can't.

Very true but poll says Do You Think steel is too hard to get?
Topic Title is wrong

[DrinkinMyStella]

Multiple topics on this but I will put my view again here as well.

I think the problem with steel really starts when you play multiple characters like me. I don't have any emotes/executions or that lightning flame bs. I managed to get my main 108 on rep 5 my second is on 93 on rep 4 and my third is a rep 2 and solid blue 54.
But seriously the amount of steel that it cost to get from 102 to 108 is ridiculous. 360 steel from level 17 to 18 so 360 x 6 = 2160
From start of heroic gear = level 13 to 18 is 1575 x 6 = 9450
And not to mention you don't want to upgrade gear with the wrong stats so you will need to buy crates till you have found the right gear for your character. so lets say after opening 10 boxes you probably have most of it. 10 x 500 = 5k
So when you hit rep 3 you need around 15k to get to max gear.
And here is where the problem really starts if you want any emotes executions or effects.
Lets say you want one of each we go with the 3k ornament 5k execution and a effect (cant remember how much but lets say 5k) total of looks = 13K
So to get max gear + 1 change of every thingy = 15K + 13K = 28K
And lets say you got 2 pieces of armor with the right stats but they look horrible so you change 2 of them = +/- 1K

Total 29K for a complete character

So around 3 weeks for a complete character if you do all the orders every single day and all the 48 hour ones. (I am full time working so no chance on that).

And I think this is the real reason they need to put it up a bit so people will play with multiple characters instead of their one main.
It takes too long to get good gear and everybody is stuck with their main which makes it hard to switch around as you know you will be facing at least 1 or 2 108's and 1 or 2 far in purple and 1 blue/grey dude.

Great answer, that pretty much sums it up. I work full time as well and everyday i try to get on more and more players have high rep mains and max gear score which makes it harder to win.

[itsPlanB]

I always laugh at people who talk about how long it takes to build up multiple characters. You've chosen of your own free will to split time between multiple characters. This is ALWAYS going to dilute your chances of maxing out anything in the same time as others who choose to play a single character. Furthermore, you talk about how long its going to take you to do this to multiple characters because you work full time.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that YOU chose to play multiple characters, and YOU want to get them completely maxed out. YOU can only play a small amount of time per day or per week. YOU put yourself in this position. Not the game.

Multiple topics on this but I will put my view again here as well.

I think the problem with steel really starts when you play multiple characters like me. I don't have any emotes/executions or that lightning flame bs. I managed to get my main 108 on rep 5 my second is on 93 on rep 4 and my third is a rep 2 and solid blue 54.
But seriously the amount of steel that it cost to get from 102 to 108 is ridiculous. 360 steel from level 17 to 18 so 360 x 6 = 2160
From start of heroic gear = level 13 to 18 is 1575 x 6 = 9450
And not to mention you don't want to upgrade gear with the wrong stats so you will need to buy crates till you have found the right gear for your character. so lets say after opening 10 boxes you probably have most of it. 10 x 500 = 5k
So when you hit rep 3 you need around 15k to get to max gear.
And here is where the problem really starts if you want any emotes executions or effects.
Lets say you want one of each we go with the 3k ornament 5k execution and a effect (cant remember how much but lets say 5k) total of looks = 13K
So to get max gear + 1 change of every thingy = 15K + 13K = 28K
And lets say you got 2 pieces of armor with the right stats but they look horrible so you change 2 of them = +/- 1K

Total 29K for a complete character

So around 3 weeks for a complete character if you do all the orders every single day and all the 48 hour ones. (I am full time working so no chance on that).

And I think this is the real reason they need to put it up a bit so people will play with multiple characters instead of their one main.
It takes too long to get good gear and everybody is stuck with their main which makes it hard to switch around as you know you will be facing at least 1 or 2 108's and 1 or 2 far in purple and 1 blue/grey dude.

It sums up that you're a completionist who doesn't have the tools to be one. Stop crying about how little time you have to play and how long its going to take. That's EVERY game available. You don't just get a trophy for showing up. Furthermore, winning has zero to do with actually getting upgrades in gear and emotes. Playing does.

Great answer, that pretty much sums it up. I work full time as well and everyday i try to get on more and more players have high rep mains and max gear score which makes it harder to win.

[Sgt Goob]

Pay to win implies that if you never play you can still get the best gear. You can't.

Can you not?
What do you need to get the best gear? you need your Gear score to increase.

You can do this on a level 1 if you pay enough. It only costs Salvage & Steel to enhance gear.

So yes, you can grind away to Rep 2-3 where you can start getting better drops but you can also just buy crap loads of pieces of armour, break them down, then use salvage to enhance your crap items, then the next items you get, are a higher Gear score, and off you go....

if you spent enough, you could easily be a lv1 character with 108 Gear score?

[DrinkinMyStella]

Very true but poll says Do You Think steel is too hard to get?
Topic Title is wrong

sorry about that, i tried to edit the title but it wouldn't let me.

[DrinkinMyStella]

Can you not?
What do you need to get the best gear? you need your Gear score to increase.

You can do this on a level 1 if you pay enough. It only costs Salvage & Steel to enhance gear.

So yes, you can grind away to Rep 2-3 where you can start getting better drops but you can also just buy crap loads of pieces of armour, break them down, then use salvage to enhance your crap items, then the next items you get, are a higher Gear score, and off you go....

if you spent enough, you could easily be a lv1 character with 108 Gear score?

No you can only be gear score 108 after rep 3 or above. You need all heroic gear max to get to 108 and you cant get heroic gear in drops till rep 3. Rep 1 and 2 will drop you rare gear only and can only get a gear score of 72 until rep 3