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[Gray360UK]

I hate the honor dudes more than gankers.

There is a 1v1 for a purpose....

This ^

[Iuslez_]

I care because some people enjoy winning. And the majority of the time I'm still alive and against someone in elimination with multiple buffs, meanwhile my teammate just hangs back and watches the fight as if I'm meant to easily take down someone with a shield and attack buff.

Also it's funny you make the argument that if they have good gear it can backfire, because watching the entire 1v1 and then fighting them after means you're fighting someone with an almost full revenge bar, letting them get revenge almost immediately, which is incredibly stupid.

can't see any pride in hoping someone comes to your help to get yourself a victory.

I enjoy beating someone, but when I'm in an intense 1v1 and an ally comes in a kills my opponent in his back, I find it less revarding that if I had gotten that kill myself. Even more since in 90% of the game someone disconnects/gets disconncted and the team with no bot then has a huge advantage since it can finish that 1v1 fast and then go gank the other team. What point is there in such a victory?

Now if the opponent has buffs to me it is not a 1v1 anymore, and I'll usually enter the fight.

Your point about revenge is not true. Usually there is enough time between the two fights for the revenge bar to reset.

[teksuo1]

There's really no way to make everyone happy.

Play with honor and you look like a slacker for your team;
Play without honor and get flamed by the enemy team.

it's just confusing as different lobbies will have different preferences ; just play without honor all the time to ensure consistency

[End_My_Life12]

[QUOTE=Iuslez_;12476374]can't see any pride in hoping someone comes to your help to get yourself a victory.

It's near impossible to beat someone stacking multiple buffs unless they are absolutely awful , and it's just insulting to have a teammate watch me fight a battle I'll almost definitely lose


And my point about revenge is absolutely true. If you're just standing watching the fight then once your teammate dies the enemy will lock onto you, and their revenge bar won't drop at all.

And my main point is that in a TEAM based game if you refuse to help your team when they ask you to it's literally griefing. We have duels for a reason, there's no reason people should be refusing to help their team.

[Vingrask]

If I managed to grab someone near a hazard, I will use that.

When I play 4v4 modes, if a teammate is struggling against the enemy, I will interefere. Or I just throw grabs for he/she do the job.

The thing is: do it! Do everything possible to kill the enemy without shame, and in time all those pseudo-honorable players will get tired of die and this "syndicate" will end.

If your teammate isn't helping and you need it: run! Run until your enemy switch the target to one of them.

[Captain-Courage]

I think the more the debate advance (not only of that thread), the more we can see two distinctive groups

- People that fantasize Honor and the heroic figure in a purely romanesque way. Ironically I think it's often more driven by ego and social acceptance desire than anything else.
- People that actually studied History, historical warfare and battles, cultures, martial arts.

[ParadigmFringe]

well... technically they're not "ruining" anything.

YOU are still getting your xp, your steel, and your xp for playing, so the only thing they're really doing to you is slowing your gains MARGINALLY, and possibly costing you a loss. since win/loss ratio is something only CoD tryhard badkids care about, you must have some other isue... right?

[ParadigmFringe]

I think the more the debate advance (not only of that thread), the more we can see two distinctive groups

- People that fantasize Honor and the heroic figure in a purely romanesque way. Ironically I think it's often more driven by ego and social acceptance desire than anything else.
- People that actually studied History, historical warfare and battles, cultures, martial arts.

*facepalm*
i hope you understand that your oversimplification of the demographics in play only serves to inflate your own ego, as you clearly identify with the latter of the two groups you mentioned. the irony is strong with you.

i have stood aside and watched teammates die because:
-they got me killed through random flailing in an earlier round
-i dueled and beat their current opponent in a previous round and know i can do it again
-my girlfriend passed me the pipe and i wanted to take a rip while i had the opportunity

in 4v4 modes, there is no honor...just personal priorities, and frankly, i don't give a rat's *** about YOUR priorities, so i'm just going to let you get murdered if you suck that bad. mmkay thanx.

[Captain-Courage]

well... technically they're not "ruining" anything.

YOU are still getting your xp, your steel, and your xp for playing, so the only thing they're really doing to you is slowing your gains MARGINALLY, and possibly costing you a loss. since win/loss ratio is something only CoD tryhard badkids care about, you must have some other isue... right?

Somebody who doesn't understand what teamwork is has spoken.
I don't know if you even see how deeply egoist your postulate is.
But it tells long about your mindset actually.

*facepalm*
i hope you understand that your oversimplification of the demographics in play only serves to inflate your own ego, as you clearly identify with the latter of the two groups you mentioned. the irony is strong with you.

i have stood aside and watched teammates die because:
-they got me killed through random flailing in an earlier round
-i dueled and beat their current opponent in a previous round and know i can do it again
-my girlfriend passed me the pipe and i wanted to take a rip while i had the opportunity

in 4v4 modes, there is no honor...just personal priorities, and frankly, i don't give a rat's *** about YOUR priorities, so i'm just going to let you get murdered if you suck that bad. mmkay thanx.

Sarcasm indeed. You don't seem to understand that either.
Do I need to fax or mail it to your belly button for you to see it, or that's ok ?
Yeah, for the notice : Nobody gives a damn about you. My my my I, I, I. I do this, I do that. Do what you want with or without your girlfriend, You don't have to justify yourself.
Because nobody cares.

[itsPlanB]

It's a team based game, and had you helped out your teammate, their KD would have gone the other way. Instead, you stood and watched your teammate die. To me, that's dishonorable. Your goal in an Elimination, Skirmish or Dominion game is to win the game. Not winning the game because you wanted to duel someone is 100% not adhering to the rules of the game. Read the rules of the game. They're quite clear.

Brawl - This is a 2v2, best-of-five rounds battle to the death. Each hero spawns at a different point of the map. A team wins a battle when they’ve eliminated the last hero of the opposing team. There are no respawns. Battle arenas are filled with traps and ledges, so exploit your environment to your advantage!

Elimination - Elimination is a best of five rounds 4v4 mode. There is no respawn and the player who is the last to survive on the battlefield wins the round for their team. It’s a mode full of tension where every fight matters – will you confront your direct opponent or coordinate with your team to storm together one enemy after the other?

Skirmish - Combat skills are key in Skirmish as you score points for your team by killing enemy Heroes. Each match ends with a climatic breaking phase when one team needs to wipe out all of the players on the other team to win the game!

Dominion - In this 4v4 battle you must break the opposing team’s morale and then eliminate them. You do so by scoring points through killing enemies, capturing specific areas, and controlling them over time. Once a team reaches 1000 points, the opposite team breaks and can no longer spawn unless they kill opponents or recapture areas. A team wins by killing the last hero of a breaking team.

If you're already dead, why do you actually care whether or not you win the round? There is no ranking, you're already dead so your K/D ratio has already taken a hit, and the win ratio in 4v4 is completely irrelevant.