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  1. #11
    Why do people think assassins are so ridiculously overpowered? Theyre great noob punishers, harrasers and are annoying, thats for sure, but beyond that they have a lot of weaknesses, ESPECIALLY against turtles when their only opener is a GB.

    They're underrepresented in higher levels of play, hell I do better with my level 10 lawbringer half the time than I do with my PK against the same people. PK is rep 3 and I have about 20 hours more experience with her, but lawbringer is much easier to play when I'm fighting competent opponents. If I'm matched against newer players PK takes the cake, but use the same tactics or even switch it up and you'll get stomped by anyone competent.

    Can't really comment on berserker and orochi, but from what I've heard orochi is trash in the upper levels.
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by Viruletic Go to original post
    Why do people think assassins are so ridiculously overpowered? Theyre great noob punishers, harrasers and are annoying, thats for sure, but beyond that they have a lot of weaknesses, ESPECIALLY against turtles when their only opener is a GB.

    They're underrepresented in higher levels of play, hell I do better with my level 10 lawbringer half the time than I do with my PK against the same people. PK is rep 3 and I have about 20 hours more experience with her, but lawbringer is much easier to play when I'm fighting competent opponents. If I'm matched against newer players PK takes the cake, but use the same tactics or even switch it up and you'll get stomped by anyone competent.

    Can't really comment on berserker and orochi, but from what I've heard orochi is trash in the upper levels.
    Your PK must su ck if you do better with LB. Right now PK is the only assassin who can do good in higher level. Berserker is similar but slower and his za is garbage. Saying that, PK is only good because of za flicker...light attacks aren't even that fast. Valk has the same i think, even Warlords light attacks are as fast as PK. That 1 frame is nothing.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by Viruletic Go to original post
    They're underrepresented in higher levels of play, hell I do better with my level 10 lawbringer half the time than I do with my PK against the same people. PK is rep 3 and I have about 20 hours more experience with her, but lawbringer is much easier to play when I'm fighting competent opponents. If I'm matched against newer players PK takes the cake, but use the same tactics or even switch it up and you'll get stomped by anyone competent.
    Yeah, PK are so underepresented at high level play that they have won most tournaments (tied up with warlord). Meanwhile nobody plays the lawbringer in tournaments because he is so OP that top player feel like it is cheating using him.

    Yep, you sure know how that game works.
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  4. #14
    Well I didn't read much, only that you're unable to beat turtles because you can't do an unblockable that can be parried.

    But as a lawbringer (massive turtle) I can confirm that if you git gud you can kill a turtle without unblockables. NEXT POST
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by WhyJimmy Go to original post
    Well I didn't read much, only that you're unable to beat turtles because you can't do an unblockable that can be parried.

    But as a lawbringer (massive turtle) I can confirm that if you git gud you can kill a turtle without unblockables. NEXT POST
    Tell us how then.


    Don't pretend you have knowledge to solve the problem and then leave.


    Tell us or shut your mouth.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by CoyoteXStarrk Go to original post
    Tell us how then.


    Don't pretend you have knowledge to solve the problem and then leave.


    Tell us or shut your mouth.
    Ok, I will share my knowledge on this matter. Feints
    Deflects
    Parries
    Zone attacks
    Unpredictable light attacks (not spam)
    and a few other things I'm probably missing. Tell me (cause I didn't read much) What character are you?
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  7. #17
    Originally Posted by WhyJimmy Go to original post
    Ok, I will share my knowledge on this matter. Feints
    Deflects
    Parries
    Zone attacks
    Unpredictable light attacks (not spam)
    and a few other things I'm probably missing. Tell me (cause I didn't read much) What character are you?
    None of that works 100% especially not in highest level and against Conq or Warlord. You are mentioning deflects and parries. We are talking about fighting trutles.........zone attacks? We are talking about fighting turtles...........feints is your strongest tool against them but again they can feint a parry as well so what are you going to do? Since this is the most safe and op playstyle right now and you are sooo goos against it then how come you havent won any tournaments yet. Good question...
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by Zv1k0 Go to original post
    None of that works 100% especially not in highest level and against Conq or Warlord. You are mentioning deflects and parries. We are talking about fighting trutles.........zone attacks? We are talking about fighting turtles...........feints is your strongest tool against them but again they can feint a parry as well so what are you going to do? Since this is the most safe and op playstyle right now and you are sooo goos against it then how come you havent won any tournaments yet. Good question...
    Well the main argument here is that assassins need unblockables, right? Well those can be parried and unless you make them extremely fast then they will be parried. We are talking about high leveled play here right? And correct me if I'm wrong but you can guardbreak somebody when they are feinting their parry. Besides, isn't peacekeeper (an assassin) one of the best characters in the game?

    Also Im just a simple LB main on xbox, that's probably why I've never been in or won a tournament. I also suck at fighting wardens, so that's a problem.
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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post
    I'd like a disable move for my PK. Would be nice.
    You already have the spam light until out of stamina. PK and WL make the top10 in competitve players already. I think the LB, Raiderand Kensei buffs are in place before we even discuss about buffing assassins, and that buff does not include PK, believe me.

    Dont believe me? Go to the reddit competitive subforum and get laughed at, while trying to explain that PK needs a buff
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