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[m3gas_]

All my friends quit because they said the warden was too imbalanced and they couldn't play their favorite vanguard anymore.

Dude if your friends quit because of the Warden then they have an issiue with For Honor as a whole, and not that specific character...
Also, your other arguments are so conflicting with each other, that people reading it come to think you just wanna bury a character you hate and while you're at it - have a buff on a character you wanna play but are not good with. May be so, may not. But that's what people get out of it. And that's why only people that think that way (the very vocal minority) will sign. I know I won't...
And I also know that if they go into the "buff-nerf every 2 weeks" game, I'm uninstalling and not looking back. But I'm pretty sure Ubi at least knows bettter than that.

[JesterSyxe]

I signed, there are many more Issues but this is definetly one of them.

[JesterSyxe]

Dude if your friends quit because of the Warden then they have an issiue with For Honor as a whole, and not that specific character...
Also, your other arguments are so conflicting with each other, that people reading it come to think you just wanna bury a character you hate and while you're at it - have a buff on a character you wanna play but are not good with. May be so, may not. But that's what people get out of it. And that's why only people that think that way (the very vocal minority) will sign. I know I won't...
And I also know that if they go into the "buff-nerf every 2 weeks" game, I'm uninstalling and not looking back. But I'm pretty sure Ubi at least knows bettter than that.

Please don't speak on other Peoples behalf, I did get what he wanted to say with his Post and the Petition so speak for yourself and yourself only. Thanks!

[StrOf10kBabies]

Hello, I believe a major game imbalance exists in the vanguard classes for the factions. Alternatively, I am proposing the other vanguards: Raider and kensei get their buffs so they can be on the same level as the warden and thus win more 1v1's. Please sign this petition if you agree and bring game balance back to for honor.

https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-ner...edium=copylink

I will only sign this if you include the Lawbringer as well. I think he needs much more help than any of the Vanguard classes. Even more so than the Raider.

[Archaelion]

I will only sign this if you include the Lawbringer as well. I think he needs much more help than any of the Vanguard classes. Even more so than the Raider.

I don't disagree that the lawbringer also needs to be looked at, as well as a host of other issues such as server stability and connection issues, but trying to achieve one piece at a time rather than everything fixed in one patch. If they could do everything in one patch, that would be great--but we should probably be realistic.

[DrExtrem]

Firs things first.

Wouldn't it wiser, if we fix and adjust the core mechanics' of the game, before we start nerfing and buffing classes?

Second:
Do you have specific ideas on what needs adjustments on the warden?


I guess its zone attack, upper light and shoulder bash vortex.

- Zone attack is high risk, because if blocked, you get s free GB in the warden. In addition, it costs apr. 40% stamina and deals nit much damage. Ist a tactical tool to defend against certain unblockable moves, the wardens dashes are too short for.
- Upper light attack is fast but has a high recovery time and can only be chained twice - no vortex potential.
- The problem with shoulder bash is, that most people can either not dodge or counter guard break it. In addition, it can be vortexed using his follow up. In fact, the follow up is slow because of its warmup. The follow up could use an overhaul. Both the bash and the follow up are useless against bots for a reason.

Free advice - you can not GB into an attack animation.

[ZechsMarquizy]

Hello, I believe a major game imbalance exists in the vanguard classes for the factions. You have the warden as the vanguard for the knights, the raider as the vanguard for the vikings and the kensei as the vanguard for the samurai. All in all, the warden is the only one who is viable to play and in a duel(1v1) of equal player skill, the warden will win 9 times out of 10. I believe in a world where every vanguard can have a fair chance to win and I'm doing something about it instead of just talking about it. I'm starting a petition to ubisoft to change the game and let the warden get his nerf so the other classes can be viable. Alternatively, I am proposing the other vanguards: Raider and kensei get their buffs so they can be on the same level as the warden and thus win more 1v1's. Please sign this petition if you agree and bring game balance back to for honor. Let's make for honor great again! Sign the petition so the game can live and players will stop leaving. All my friends quit because they said the warden was too imbalanced and they couldn't play their favorite vanguard anymore.


https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-ner...edium=copylink

You and anyone else who agrees with you are obviously lacking in both "skill" and "experience" respectfully, you need allot more experience before you start making anymore comments regaurding balance. Stop crying about Warden, enough is enough. You claim he is overpowered, when infact he is far from it. You claimed he is the only 1 viable? LMAO dude Kensei is just as strong, and has a WAY better moveset when it comes to unpredictability. Raider is the only Vanguard that is not Viable in 1v1 scenario's and is in desperate need of a major buff. You and players like you have no idea what real skill is in this game, and from everything you have said thus far obviously lack common knowledge of dodge mechanics and how to properly use that tool.


Edit: Just some advice, stay away from the noobs who use the term "Vortex" the players who use that term suck horribly ingame and always use this fighting games terminology for literally everything. These ignorant players think For Honor is just another Fighting Game, when obviously its far from "just" a fighting game lmao

[Raven-Mad]

Hello, I believe a major game imbalance exists in the vanguard classes for the factions. You have the warden as the vanguard for the knights, the raider as the vanguard for the vikings and the kensei as the vanguard for the samurai. All in all, the warden is the only one who is viable to play and in a duel(1v1) of equal player skill, the warden will win 9 times out of 10. I believe in a world where every vanguard can have a fair chance to win and I'm doing something about it instead of just talking about it. I'm starting a petition to ubisoft to change the game and let the warden get his nerf so the other classes can be viable. Alternatively, I am proposing the other vanguards: Raider and kensei get their buffs so they can be on the same level as the warden and thus win more 1v1's. Please sign this petition if you agree and bring game balance back to for honor. Let's make for honor great again! Sign the petition so the game can live and players will stop leaving. All my friends quit because they said the warden was too imbalanced and they couldn't play their favorite vanguard anymore.


https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-ner...edium=copylink

You're talking about balance in a vacuum. Warden may be the strongest Vanguard, but it's not the strongest character. Nerfing him will simply make him unviable against the other top characters of which he is already the weakest (Warlord, PK, and Conqueror all outperform Warden in tournaments by statistics and there are far more Warden players than any of these classes).

At the top level, Warden is one of the viable choices, not brokenly strong. In nerfing Warden, all you do is remove one viable class, that is it. It makes extremely low level play a bit better perhaps, but in the long run it only damages the game. We already see nearly every single tourney is won by a PK or Warlord with Conqs always placing high and Wardens often not even making it to the top 8 despite being the most common tourney class.

I mean for pete's sake, a top level Warden (Extheleon) lost to a person in a tourney who was new to PK trying to prove a point that it was broken by beating hyper expereienced/skilled players with broken PK mechanics. Seriously, nerfing Warden is NOT the way to go here.

[Davosteels]

The warden is just perfect, just buff the raider and the kensei

[DrExtrem]

The warden is just perfect, just buff the raider and the kensei

What needs buffing on the kensai?

His light attacks certainly not. They are fast and deal the highest light attack damage in the game.

And don't forget, that you can cancel most things into a free unblockable or iirc, a GB.