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[rockdog810]

Whatever people say, DO NOT nerf the Warlord. The Warlord is not overpowered or in need of a nerf. I've had people with lower gear stats than me, who aren't playing Warlord, beat me when I'm playing Warlord, simply because they're better than me. The thing people complain about most, is the headbutt. The headbutt does not do any damage and the strike after it does very little damage. If the Warlord is spamming the headbutt, it becomes predictable and in that case, easily dodged. Not to mention that the Warlord has very slow and short-ranged attacks. If you put his health, damage and throw distance down, there wouldn't be any reason to play as him. I'm reputation 4 with my warlord and he's my main. All of my other heroes are under reputation 1. If the Warlord gets nerfed and becomes unplayable, I'll have to re-start and be behind everyone even though I pre-ordered the game. Thank you.

[Valr4vn_]

The warlord as of now since the fullblock update is on par with pretty much all charcters. The headbutt does not track so its easy to dodge and punish, if anything his parry shield bash timing should be buffed and the headbutt take slightly more stamina. Either way i played warlord since beta and ive Actually have trouble winning at all now that you updated the full block. His heavies are slow and NOT UNINTERRUPTABLE as advertised because they can be stopped by a plethora of different attacks.

[CitizenPuddi]

Whatever people say, DO NOT nerf the Warlord. The Warlord is not overpowered or in need of a nerf. I've had people with lower gear stats than me, who aren't playing Warlord, beat me when I'm playing Warlord, simply because they're better than me. The thing people complain about most, is the headbutt. The headbutt does not do any damage and the strike after it does very little damage. If the Warlord is spamming the headbutt, it becomes predictable and in that case, easily dodged. Not to mention that the Warlord has very slow and short-ranged attacks. If you put his health, damage and throw distance down, there wouldn't be any reason to play as him. I'm reputation 4 with my warlord and he's my main. All of my other heroes are under reputation 1. If the Warlord gets nerfed and becomes unplayable, I'll have to re-start and be behind everyone even though I pre-ordered the game. Thank you.

https://fhtracker.com/profile/psn/rockdog810/heroes

in the top 5% in several categories as a warlord

nearly 2:1 win/loss and k/d ratio

"i lost as warlord a few times that means warlord is balanced"

get out of here man, lmao

[Mr_Gallows]

Just curious rockdog. What platform are you playing on? On ps4 the peacekeeper is more of an issue, than the warlord. They need different balance patches for different platforms.

[RLTygurr]

Although the headbutt doesn't track, it does have an unusually wide hitbox. Add onto that the fact that a lot of attacks will move your character forward farther than they should (such as guard breaks and heavies) if your opponent dodges backwards a certain amount of time before your attack. It's weird and possibly a bug, but I've heard nothing about it.

Because of this, unless you're an assassin with a fast dodge speed, the headbutt will hit you even if you dodge sideways or backwards. The only way to dodge it is to predict it, which is difficult even for experienced players because the headbutt is so quick. Add onto that the fact that he gets a free hit after each headbutt, which is why i think it's not healthy for the game. Despite the low damage it does, it still deals damage and that's the problem. There's no safe counter play to the headbutt, and unless someone is spamming the hell out of it to the point where you can predict it, you'll never be able to dodge it reliably.

Also, his heavies are only uninterruptible at the startup. It even says so on his moveset list.

An experienced warlord player should never under any circumstance lose to another character, even with the nerf to full-block stance. Not saying he's unbeatable because nobody is perfect, but the chances of beating one are slim to none if they know how to play.

[Fearanoma]

The only thing I want nerfed his bs throw distance. (Hugs a shield for 8 meters throws another 6) because a real warrior would totally not just roll off the shield.

[Valr4vn_]

Whatever people say, DO NOT nerf the Warlord. The Warlord is not overpowered or in need of a nerf. I've had people with lower gear stats than me, who aren't playing Warlord, beat me when I'm playing Warlord, simply because they're better than me. The thing people complain about most, is the headbutt. The headbutt does not do any damage and the strike after it does very little damage. If the Warlord is spamming the headbutt, it becomes predictable and in that case, easily dodged. Not to mention that the Warlord has very slow and short-ranged attacks. If you put his health, damage and throw distance down, there wouldn't be any reason to play as him. I'm reputation 4 with my warlord and he's my main. All of my other heroes are under reputation 1. If the Warlord gets nerfed and becomes unplayable, I'll have to re-start and be behind everyone even though I pre-ordered the game. Thank you.

Although the headbutt doesn't track, it does have an unusually wide hitbox. Add onto that the fact that a lot of attacks will move your character forward farther than they should (such as guard breaks and heavies) if your opponent dodges backwards a certain amount of time before your attack. It's weird and possibly a bug, but I've heard nothing about it.

Because of this, unless you're an assassin with a fast dodge speed, the headbutt will hit you even if you dodge sideways or backwards. The only way to dodge it is to predict it, which is difficult even for experienced players because the headbutt is so quick. Add onto that the fact that he gets a free hit after each headbutt, which is why i think it's not healthy for the game. Despite the low damage it does, it still deals damage and that's the problem. There's no safe counter play to the headbutt, and unless someone is spamming the hell out of it to the point where you can predict it, you'll never be able to dodge it reliably.

Also, his heavies are only uninterruptible at the startup. It even says so on his moveset list.

An experienced warlord player should never under any circumstance lose to another character, even with the nerf to full-block stance. Not saying he's unbeatable because nobody is perfect, but the chances of beating one are slim to none if they know how to play.

This is an absolute farse, just because the warlord is a good character does not mean he deserves a nerf. I dont see them going about nerfing warden. And they arent nerfing pk anytime soon yet theyre top of every tier list. As a warlord ive had players dodge my headbutt more than once in a single match. Youre arguing that you have to predict the headbutt but thats what this game is all about. Prediction. The fact of the matter is that the headbutt CAN be countered.

[CitizenPuddi]

This is an absolute farse, just because the warlord is a good character does not mean he deserves a nerf. I dont see them going about nerfing warden. And they arent nerfing pk anytime soon yet theyre top of every tier list. As a warlord ive had players dodge my headbutt more than once in a single match. Youre arguing that you have to predict the headbutt but thats what this game is all about. Prediction. The fact of the matter is that the headbutt CAN be countered.

holy cats someone (probably assassins) dodged your headbutt more than once?!!?? in a single match even, omg

clearly everybody is wrong and overestimating the strength of an extremely fast unblockable/unparryable headbutt that nigh guarantees a guardbreak carry into a pit

pack it up folks

we're not correct

::edit:: also, do you read these forums?

people are clamoring for PK and warden vortex nerfs ad nauseam

just because other stuff is broken doesnt mean your main isnt broken too

::edit edit::

also the game is more about reaction than prediction

which is why people take issue with having to predict stuff they cant react to

this is also why 98% of the game mechanics are made up of reactionary stuff

and not guessing games

[RLTygurr]

This is an absolute farse, just because the warlord is a good character does not mean he deserves a nerf. I dont see them going about nerfing warden. And they arent nerfing pk anytime soon yet theyre top of every tier list. As a warlord ive had players dodge my headbutt more than once in a single match. Youre arguing that you have to predict the headbutt but thats what this game is all about. Prediction. The fact of the matter is that the headbutt CAN be countered.

Warden barely even needs a nerf as it is now. He's strong, yes, but not extremely difficult to play against. They ARE in fact nerfing PK, watch the latest Warriors Den livestream. Also, they ARE nerfing warlord as well, so honestly this thread means nothing to them.

Warlords are also at the top of every tier list, within the top 3, so your point on that is completely irrelevant.

The game isn't all about prediction, it's about outsmarting your opponent or overpowering them. There is nothing smart about using the headbutt, which coupled with warlord's already bloated move kit and passives kit, makes him the worst character to fight against. No matter who you are. Maybe the reason they can dodge your headbutt is because you're bad? Or because they were already planning on dodging anyway?

Just face the fact that warlord will be weaker within a week or two. How much weaker, nobody is certain, but we do know it's happening.

[CitizenPuddi]

Just face the fact that warlord will be weaker within a week or two.

might wanna dial back that optimism, chief

we all already know how they are with announced changes