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DerHerbman, you are right.
I have an impression, that majority of those who don't see any problem with ripping our pockets are just kids, who were bought the game by their parents. Because if they really did buy the game for their own money, they would want to appreciate it fully.
I live in Poland, and here this game was hellishly expensive. It was almost 1/6 of my monthly income.
And what did I get in return? Kicking out of 70% of dominion matches, inability to play with my friend in a group (as we are usually both kicked out), lags, more waiting than playing (I have 80 hours in game, 41 of actual playing, its ridiculous).
And such practices, to make us buy the packets of steel because of INSANE price of most cosmetics are outrageous. I BOUGHT THE GAME FOR MORE MONEY THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. YET I HAVE TO GRIND MY LIFE OUT IF I WOULD WANT TO BUY MYSELF SOMETHING IN THIS GOLDEN PRICED GAME. W T F ? !
P.S. Blasto95. Are you insane? They owe me nothing?! Do you have any idea what exchange for money is based on?
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I have a reply to bolded part. I do not think those emotes should be given out for free unlike OP. However you are damn wrong on the statement that "they dont owe me anything", because they owe me a fully working multiplayer game that I paid for. It is simple business rules, I pay money as customer, and they deliver the promised product in return.Originally Posted by Blasto95 Go to original post
Kids these days have no idea what business means.
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So you feel they owe you something. You feel they didnt deliver their promise in a game they advertised. Go, take legal action, dont argue with me if you think youre right. I mean if you win, congrats! But as far as I know there is no satisfaction guarantee especially after the games been out for a month. Just because the servers arent stable and they have high prices for cosmetics, does not mean they did not deliver a game they promised.
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They can cost 1000000 steel for all I care.
I paid full price for the game, I'm not buying steel in a system that is so blatantly designed for me to do so.
For me cosmetics are like the golden guns in overwatch. I will play and steel will trickle in slowly. After some time I might get one. It's fine. I prioritize executions over emotes though. Emotes feel smug and annoying and I refuse to stoop down to spamming emotes over corpses like a ****ing pig-boy.
Overpriced real-money currency has no place in a premium game. If Ubisoft wants to ruin what little credibility they have left by enforcing the shadiest F2P business model on a premium cost game, that's their choice.
The only reason this system exist is that a bunch addicts support it.
Fun part is, if they weren't so tunnel vision greedy, I assume they'd make more money in the long run
Look at Overwatch. You pay for the full game. PERIOD. You get all upcoming characters for free. The ingame "currency" for cosmetics are loot boxes, which you get for free, frequently. There is no bulls**t "champion status" money grab scheme.
It's actually a pleasure for me to support that game, i've spent around 100€ in lootboxes since release.
Oh and multiplayer actually works. They support it, you see. They're actually crazy enough to release a MULTIPLAYER GAME with MULTYPLAYER support. Luxury stuff like dedicated servers, a match making system, a ranked system and several game modes that actually have some thought put in them. Not that crude primary stuff we get here.
There are more real problems with the game, than emotes costing 7k steel. Like the fact that multiplayer is completely unstable and there's no proper match making (because, again, it makes sense to release a multiplayer game without servers, RIGHT?)
Also the fact that there was 0 thought put into faction war system, I mean it's like it was designed by some random dude on the back of a napkin during the lunchbreak.
Feats and equipment statsalso have terrible, unimaginate design. Some classes have nothing but bad feats.
Look at warden. His Renown is boosted by being outnumbered. But half his feats are about boosting team mates. Which is it? Being outnumbered or run in a gank fest? Is there even a vision to what the hero role is?
I mean if they wanted progression they could have done wonders with actual talent systems tailored for each hero and just drop the whole gear-score stuff (which is pointless, as the stats are so unbalanced everyone goes for the same ones, damage, defense, vengeance boosts, it doesnt add diversity, it adds a new unfun progression wall).
It's so sad seeing such an awesome gameplay innovation is a game so poorly executed and so incomplete. I really wish a competent company had got their hands on this combat system first. I kind of wish Blizzard will work on this as their next project, they actually know how to develop and support multiplayer platforms for a competitive game and they aren't this unscrupulously greedy. This game in its current state wouldn't be out of alpha in blizzard's hands. Other companies wonder why Blizzard swims in money and seems to fart out nothing but successful games? They are smart, they design systems properly, they don't ignore problems. And more importantly, they fix they when they are broken. Look at how they messed up with Diablo 3 and what lengths they went to to fix it. It's a COMPLETELY different game.
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How about the regret that you bought 2 x 50€ packs instead of one 100 € pack?Originally Posted by NiteShadeCG Go to original post
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Still no regrets because i did not have 100 bucks at the timeOriginally Posted by Yarzahn Go to original post
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Why do the people who are so so desperate for this superficial fluff, who value it so highly and talk about it as if it's the most important aspect of the game that 'we payed loads of money for already, raar!', then place no value on said items in terms of what they cost in Steel or in how long it take to earn that steel to get these amazing, life changing, must have, cannot live without items?
They are unique items, they are prestige items, they are entirely designed to show the time and effort you put in to acquire them. If you value them highly but want them cheaply, you are just a lazy 'gimme gimme, I want, I want' cry baby with an enormous sense of entitlement and an equally massive lack of backbone. Do the goddam work if you want the thing so badly.
I'm currently sitting on 12,000 Steel and don't even know what to spend it on. The game has been out 4 weeks. I was once sitting on 20,000 Steel and didn't know what to spend that on either. I repeat, the game has been out just 4 weeks. I love dishonest posts like one of those above that points out how much Steel you get from games, but leaves out the far superior amounts you get from Orders and Contracts. If you have to be dishonest to make your point, you're just a whining baby. Man up and go earn some steel.
Not to mention, if everyone, and I mean everyone, had these things, if you all did your black smoke emotes at each other, while all wearing a Dragon Ornament on your head while all using the same execution, because they were so easy to get in 4 weeks, what the hell would be the point in that? Would make the whole concept redundant.
This is gamers in 2017? Half of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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You just don't get it don't you? It's impossible for a causal gamer that spend already 50-100€ on the game to unlock the full game.Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
Here someone who is able to do math did it:
"Ubisoft has valued their in-game unlocks within the base game at a $732
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players who play 1-2 hours 5-7 days a week will never reach this goal. Completing Orders/half-Contracts will get you roughly 1000 Steel, another roughly 200 for the matches you played. So 1200 a day is a good estimated gain for casual players.
That's 915 days. Roughly 2.51 years."
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