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    Originally Posted by Waybook Go to original post
    Yay! Let's all jump on the anti-nerf bandwagon and circle-jerk over every "nerf" regardless of how justified or needed it is! "Nerf" is the buzzword of the month everyone, so get on aboard!

    Maybe then we can eventually power creep to where Diablo 3 is and see damage numbers in the hundreds of millions or even billions! How awesome would it be to have the screen full of numbers!

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    NERFS are NEVER needed , if they fixed the game properly , fix your build . call for an ant cheat and NO nerfs.... nerfs are killing the game.. as for the numbers they do not mean any thing .. 2 characters swaped the build and both give odd numbers.. never the same as for builds they are NEVER the same from one day to the next .. nerfs are NEVER justified.
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    Originally Posted by Waybook Go to original post
    Oh I'm against all the nerfs OP talked about. His detailed analysis of each one was excellent and well thought through criticism. I'm really glad he made this thread, because he contributes so much to the topic of balance. I'm sure Massive will read his post and reconsider all their balancing plans thanks to OP's brilliant argumentation and reasoning.

    If only we could have more people like OP posting here. That's precisely the kind of content that helps advance this game forward.
    Hi.....Are you by any chance.....me? If so, it's very nice to meet us.
    I just don't recall posting this, but it seems I did as you not realizing that you and I are us or well....We're just me. See us later!
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    Originally Posted by Commander-Blue Go to original post
    Stagger/Air burst seeker and Hamish said the Nimble holster is OP so that's getting a nerf as well.Yannick did mention they will adjustt nimble.

    (as long as they keep these nerfs well within the confines of P v P it's all good and fine let the P v P players nerf the living FK out of their gear,knock them selves out with nerfing everything.)

    As long as it doesn't impact the P v E side of things and ruin that side of the game.

    There was a buff mentioned MEDKITS they are going to look at those (partly due to the nerf going to happen on Nimble)

    @VLOD mate ever since Last stand this place has been this is OP in LS it needs to go it's too strong/OP blah blah blah
    Damn just when I was getting good with Nimble
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    From what they said I think nimble would be ok if med kits worked better. At the moment med kits are a little underwhelming and so in comparison nimble feels a bit Op (PvP). Thinking about it though if med kits actually healed then there would be no need to use nimble?!?
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    Originally Posted by tmPH.Gammatron Go to original post
    You didn't get the irony of his post. LoL.

    And surely he's just new here. for about 200+ posts? i wonder how he made those.
    Post history is cumulative with other forums, so indeed the poster could be new to The Division forum, and the game itself..

    That wasn't irony either.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by radio-ham Go to original post
    NERFS are NEVER needed , if they fixed the game properly , fix your build . call for an ant cheat and NO nerfs.... nerfs are killing the game.. as for the numbers they do not mean any thing .. 2 characters swaped the build and both give odd numbers.. never the same as for builds they are NEVER the same from one day to the next .. nerfs are NEVER justified.
    So you're saying the Sentry SMG Meta that had the fastest TTK of any meta to date DID NOT need to be nerfed? Nonsense, we would still be using that to this day because nothing they came up with would come close to that in terms of TTK or efficiency. Some nerfs are warranted whether we like it or not, that's just part of the difficulty that comes with trying to balance RPG type of games with so many numbers and variables, this isn't Destiny PvP and never will be.
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    Originally Posted by RedBull507 Go to original post
    So you're saying the Sentry SMG Meta that had the fastest TTK of any meta to date DID NOT need to be nerfed? Nonsense, we would still be using that to this day because nothing they came up with would come close to that in terms of TTK or efficiency. Some nerfs are warranted whether we like it or not, that's just part of the difficulty that comes with trying to balance RPG type of games with so many numbers and variables, this isn't Destiny PvP and never will be.
    Not to mention the fact that what many call nerfs are complete rebalances of many aspects. But don't try to convince the majority of the community. They heard *no nerfs* once, and now they cannot stop talking about it.
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    Add some power creep please, lacking for sure.
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    Originally Posted by Waybook Go to original post
    Oh I'm against all the nerfs OP talked about. His detailed analysis of each one was excellent and well thought through criticism. I'm really glad he made this thread, because he contributes so much to the topic of balance. I'm sure Massive will read his post and reconsider all their balancing plans thanks to OP's brilliant argumentation and reasoning.

    If only we could have more people like OP posting here. That's precisely the kind of content that helps advance this game forward.
    Next time I will present a Powerpoint. Then you will complain that the wall of text I provided was too much. Obviously, you did not watch the State of the Game because those 3 things I mentioned pretty much cover the 20+ minutes of the presentation. Once again, complaints about certain skill always lead to a "nerf" or do you have an example where the response of the devs that's been different? BTW- nice attempt to criticise my post as a "straw man," you must have trouble with sarcasm in general.
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by cabull64 Go to original post
    You apparently must be a newer player.. Nerfing has been the primary objective of every patch.. A never ending battle to try and balance pvp. Each patch creating a new meta build. Rinse and repeat. Stay tuned! Grab your popcorn and enjoy a roller coaster that never ends..
    Welcome to every pvp oriented MMO... lol
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