Who is the strongest/most unbalanced character in your opinion ? | Forums

[Mr.Riot]

The tier list is as follows imo:

S. Warden((Once they nerf the shoulderbash, he will be A tier)), Warlord((Good luck fixing him)), Peacekeeper((Light Spam and Zone attack)), Conq((Only due to his Shield bash into lights.))
A. Shugoki((The reason I say A tier for him is because the PK, Orochi, Warden all hard counter him. Any class with a double attack annhilates the Shugoki)), Berserker, Orochi.
B. Kensei.
C. Raider, Lawbringer, Conq((Now right now, Conq is S tier due to Shiled bash. he would be C tier if the sheild bash wasn't taken into account)).


Its hard for me to play Nooboshi... She is inbetween A and B. She has lots of range and speed, a powerful combo with the kick and bleeds. She cant be punished if you parry her at max range. She's not as powerful as all the A tier entirely, but shes certaintly better than B and C.


I also am not placing the Valk because its a little difficult for me to choose. Shes not A or S tier... shes inbetween. A+ tier? Shes relaly good now but... shes not broken powerful like the others.

How is Shugoki A in your opinion?

[PanzerShrekonin]

How is Shugoki A in your opinion?

Shugoki might be a little more than A, but I can't place him in S tier due to the hard counters that exist for him.

So, Shugoki is strong as hell due to the armor that he gets and then the demons embrace((Though its a big detriment unless its done off of a guard break into a wall)).

but when you fight the PK, Orochi, Warden and anyone else with a double attack, Shugoki just drops dead very quickly.

[Uncle-Smough]

Just pointing out that if a player is that good at parrying as a Lawbringer, they'll be even more effective as a Warden. Lawbringers counter strikes are nothing expressive.

Apparently half somebody's health from one parry isn't expressive.

Also I pretty much suck at warden without using his vortex or ZA.

[Vingrask]

As a Prestige 8 Assassin Duelist (800+ duels, 90% of my playtime), I hate Kensei over all. I will explain.

Warlord is annoying when turlte effectively, but it is indeed possible to dodge the headbutt and punish him. It is like play against a Conqueror, except Warlord at close range is more dangerous because the fast attacks and ZA. Even feinting a lot with different mixups, the defensive gameplay today is too rewarding, so my duels against these heroes take too long, as against Shugoki. But since the last one is slow, it is possible to put the armor down first and then try mixups without risk a trade.

Lawbringer is a slow fight too, one of the most boring ones indeed. There isn't much to say. It is he waiting for a parry and I feinting. I never can throw a single light without feint and he almost never attack. Damn boring.

Peacekeeper is predictable. I just control the range and punish with lights. Almost no Peacekeeper focus on defense. Since you control the range you can control the flow of the fight. It's very hard I lose for one.

Warden is more predictable than Peacekeeper... ZA, top light... And since he/she realize you can dodge all shouderbashes the turtle and ZA spam begin. Get the timing to parry/deflect and the match is over.

Now Kensei. Super high damage, weird speeds between attacks (top ligh is super fast, heavy is super slow). The most ****ing annoying range of the game, because that sword can cover 180º crossing all the damn map while he/she step foward!!! And a mixup which obligate you do dodge to risk be hard punished by a feint to side heavy or a mid dodge gb. So as an assassin my range is short. I can't get too close because the fast top lights, and maybe this is a controller con, but with all the feints, gbs and cgbs, and dodges, it's even hard to block him/her! There is no way I can control the flow. I can't control the range since his/her attack can cross the map or feint it really fast to punish me some way, like baiting a parry/deflect/dodge.
Maybe the Kensei complainers do that because they can't overpass the defensive gameplay, but for me which use an aggressive one, he/she is the most hard to deal with and who has the better kit of the game.

Ah, and Valkyrie is just broken now thanks to Ubisoft. Even being predictable it's hard to react sometimes. It's up to you deal with it since now everyone is obligated to parry/block every attack she throws, or you will need wait the 4th hit (the one which put you down) to dodge and punish. Until she get that and stop.

[Delectable_Sin]

Stats don't mean **** when we don't have skill-based MM. Those players could have similar stats with pretty much any hero because they're good players playing against generally worse players. And possibly abusing leaving to maintain their W/L records. Also, those sites usually only track players who have been searched for on the site. And only update each time a profile is looked up. So they're never reliable even when you have meaningful stats (which we don't).

You're completely wrong. The match making is based on win rate, and that site updates all players across all platforms instantaneously -- so the very second the match takes place. For example, here's your profile: https://fhtracker.com/profile/psn/SirCorrino

[Mr.Riot]

Shugoki might be a little more than A, but I can't place him in S tier due to the hard counters that exist for him.

So, Shugoki is strong as hell due to the armor that he gets and then the demons embrace((Though its a big detriment unless its done off of a guard break into a wall)).

but when you fight the PK, Orochi, Warden and anyone else with a double attack, Shugoki just drops dead very quickly.

lol I was asking as if my opinion is that he is lower than A ( Definitly C in my opinion).

[ZEONesp]

I love the fact that lawbringer dont even appear on the list xD that says pretty much.

[Mr.Riot]

I love the fact that lawbringer dont even appear on the list xD that says pretty much.

Lol same with raider. i love to play them though. They are just ****ing trucks.

[AkenoKobayashi]

I struggle most with Peacekeepers. Orochis only get me when they switch up the attack direction. But when I swing my big kanabo In the opposite direction that the PK is dodging in, the little butt stabber still manages to limbo under it and stab me. Even when they dodge into a wall and don't move from the spot they were at to begin with, they still manage to dodge my swings.