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    SVD Accuracy, Stagger and Damage + Seeker Mine Newbies

    Hello Massive Friends,

    We all know the famous Dead Eye annoying build.
    The principle of dead eye set is very nice, but something has to be done about the sniper rifles, specialy about the SVD.

    SVD has ridiculous accuracy, high stagger and impressive damage. Pretty unfair, right?
    I would say that 30% of the players are running exacly the same build with the same weapons just because of this freaking gun.
    The other 30% are running seeker mines, that is also annoying as hell.

    When some dead eye start shooting at you, there is no healings to support you alive.
    If there is no cover, you are dead. The latency will take care about the shots, they will all land on you. If you are lucky, there will be only one dead eye shooting at you.

    Compared to the efforts of the older players (like me, got the game at the very beginning). I had to farm HARD to get my exotics and my high end gear.
    Now, any stupid kid can get a Dead Eye set and a paratroper SVD and get OP. Massive also doesnt happens, dead eye and SVD is already a PROBLEM a BROKEN build at the game and now the blueprint for the SVD is being sold at the special blueprints vendor. Like, what? Are you really feeding this stupid dead eye behavior?

    The seeker mine damage is the most stupid thing in 1.6. There are so many that you just cant shoot all of them. The damage HAS to be decrease or the cooldown HAS to be increase a lot.

    I would like to know if there is something being done to balance this together with the seeker mine newbies.
    I am really considering leaving the game and wait for PVP get balanced.
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    Don't worry they'll be fixed Ooops! nerfed

    In the SOTG they said there will be fixes/having a look at Stagger/Seeker Airburst/Nimble holster IE: they'll all be getting a nerf sooner or later (my wish is that they nerf it all P v P side and leave them alone in P v E)
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    So in short you are asking for a nerf but not citing it blatantly. Would you suggest a nerf to something that makes you enjoy this game? It doesn't matter how many hours you have spent in this game as long as you don't utilise best of the weapons.

    P.S: I am neighter DeadEye nor seeker mine user. I am more of an AR user, but I know these things get me killed quickly in some matches if I don't play carefully and spot the snipers.
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    Originally Posted by FlipperKoala101 Go to original post
    So in short you are asking for a nerf but not citing it blatantly. Would you suggest a nerf to something that makes you enjoy this game? It doesn't matter how many hours you have spent in this game as long as you don't utilise best of the weapons.

    P.S: I am neighter DeadEye nor seeker mine user. I am more of an AR user, but I know these things get me killed quickly in some matches if I don't play carefully and spot the snipers.
    Yes i am asking for a Nerf, no fears to hide it. I am just giving arguments.
    SVD has extremely high accuracy with the 3.4x scope, super damage and super stagger. Dont you agree that at least one of those atributes has to be nerfed?
    This weapon is all-in-one. It makes any real sniper rifle useless for over 90% of the players (not for me, i love m44 for pvp).
    This kind of build makes people stay hidden just waiting for kills. I am not even talking about the fire rate, which is insane for a sniper rifle with that accuracy.
    What about the critical? Shoot in the feet = critical. Legs = critical. Requires NO SKILL at ALL. Shot anywhere, kill everyone.

    I understand your point. Im just saying that DeadEye and SeekerMine stuff does not require any kind of skill to use.
    Any stupid turtle can press E e toss an airbust seeker mine. Anyone can click desperately from distance until you get dead.


    The point is not one or 2 newbies. I can handle 2 seeker miners or 2 dead eyes. The problem is when you have 4 against you.
    I am not saying that i do not trust my build. I LOVE IT, i can get between 25-35 kills every last stand match with my MP7.
    I made it with many many efforts to make it reliable. Everyone should work hard for good gear instead of receiving it a few matches or buying OP weapons blueprints at vendors.
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    Originally Posted by ursoteta Go to original post
    Yes i am asking for a Nerf, no fears to hide it. I am just giving arguments.
    SVD has extremely high accuracy with the 3.4x scope, super damage and super stagger. Dont you agree that at least one of those atributes has to be nerfed?
    This weapon is all-in-one. It makes any real sniper rifle useless for over 90% of the players (not for me, i love m44 for pvp).
    Something can be done about it. BUT - Why don't you run what they are running? Who is stopping you? Maybe you don't like to run a Marksman rifle because that doesn't match your play style. What about them who are running Marksman rifle because running an Assault Rifle is not their play style?

    As I have said this countless times, we need to keep our suggestions light on nerfs because they are never better for the game. Look at 1.6! A freaking medkit doesn't work anymore because of so many nerf suggestions.
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    Originally Posted by Commander-Blue Go to original post
    Don't worry they'll be fixed Ooops! nerfed

    In the SOTG they said there will be fixes/having a look at Stagger/Seeker Airburst/Nimble holster IE: they'll all be getting a nerf sooner or later (my wish is that they nerf it all P v P side and leave them alone in P v E)
    Strongly agree with this so much, it'll stop the PvPers moaning about it and the PvEers can still have their fun. They should just balance the PvP side altogether like they have done for Last Stand, I think that'll only be the way to make the PvPers happy.
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    The Airburst Seeker Mine is getting nerfed, which is understandable. But Dead Eye and SVD can stay how they are. They already destroyed the First Wave M1A. There are not many people running with snipers around in this game, and it takes skill to play with a sniper on console. If you don't take cover, it's your fault. There's a huge weakpoint of the Dead Eye Sniper build, no matter which scope you're using, the scope can only move slowly to left and right (at least on console). It's not as easy as it looks. People with ARs and high fire rate can still melt Dead Eye sniper players. You can also use shock turrets to stun these players. Nerfing everything viable isn't going to help anyone.
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    Originally Posted by FlipperKoala101 Go to original post
    Something can be done about it. BUT - Why don't you run what they are running? Who is stopping you? Maybe you don't like to run a Marksman rifle because that doesn't match your play style. What about them who are running Marksman rifle because running an Assault Rifle is not their play style?

    As I have said this countless times, we need to keep our suggestions light on nerfs because they are never better for the game. Look at 1.6! A freaking medkit doesn't work anymore because of so many nerf suggestions.
    We have a Dead Eye!

    I dont run what they do because i have skills that i like to use and show. No one is stopping me, i just have a different mindset. I like REAL marksman rifles. Bolt action rifles.
    Again, im just saying that the accuracy, damage, fire rate and high critical damage % is just not real.
    So much damage, 0 recoil. 30 bullets of the size of 1 finger inside a magazine.

    Thats free extremely OP build without any efforts.
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    Originally Posted by InstantParty030 Go to original post
    The Airburst Seeker Mine is getting nerfed, which is understandable. But Dead Eye and SVD can stay how they are. They already destroyed the First Wave M1A. There are not many people running with snipers around in this game, and it takes skill to play with a sniper on console. If you don't take cover, it's your fault. There's a huge weakpoint of the Dead Eye Sniper build, no matter which scope you're using, the scope can only move slowly to left and right (at least on console). It's not as easy as it looks. People with ARs and high fire rate can still melt Dead Eye sniper players. You can also use shock turrets to stun these players. Nerfing everything viable isn't going to help anyone.
    Got your point.
    I am a PC user.

    SVD has extremely high accuracy with the 3.4x scope, super damage and super stagger. That is not real.
    Dont you agree that at least one of those atributes has to be nerfed?
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    SVD is fine. Deadeye can be changed though to still reward landing head shots but be less punishing when missing headshots but still do a fair amount of damage when hitting the body.

    Have Deadeye take only a small portion of your total HSD and only take a medium portion of your total CHD while still keeping 100% CHC.

    This can result in head shots always doing more than body shots while keeping body shots a reasonable option. The change will do less to the body than Deadeye can currently but a bit more to the head than currently. But still does less than other sniper builds since they have to land head shots to be effective.
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