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  1. #51
    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Both will be done in fact. Devs stated in their stream that headbutt stamina cost will be increased to 15 from 12 and its recovery frames will be increased.
    And the startup frame of the headbutt...
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    Originally Posted by G0dzBlaze Go to original post
    And the startup frame of the headbutt...
    Not touched I don't think. Which is fine. I mean it was already punishable on whiff so now it's even more so.
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  3. #53
    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post
    Not touched I don't think. Which is fine. I mean it was already punishable on whiff so now it's even more so.
    No, the start up time IS getting nerfed.

    https://youtu.be/ccvODjwbYhM?t=5m
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    Well warlord just dropped to *** tier. Oh well, better for me in the long run.
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  5. #55
    Originally Posted by TCTF_SWAT Go to original post
    Well warlord just dropped to *** tier. Oh well, better for me in the long run.
    If the Warlord is **** tier simply because of his headbutt being nerfed (we still have yet to see it post patch), then he was **** to begin with. No character should be reliant on a single move for success.
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    Any class reliant on a single move to win should and will be fixed. It was so obvious that this nonsense will be nerfed that I was just laughing at noobs using it while they can.

    In a way those exact noobs using a single move all game long, caused it to be nerfed... if that ain't ironic. HA HA HA!
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  7. #57
    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    If the Warlord is **** tier simply because of his headbutt being nerfed (we still have yet to see it post patch), then he was **** to begin with. No character should be reliant on a single move for success.
    What about Warden Vortex then and Shugoki Oni-charge?
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  8. #58
    Originally Posted by G0dzBlaze Go to original post
    What about Warden Vortex then and Shugoki Oni-charge?
    Those are parts of overall effective tool sets. Unsure what to say about the Warden's vortex; I don't get hammered by it too often. As for the Shug's Oni Charge, something clearly needs to happen (read somewhere that the dev's intend on it). But, the Shugoki will survive it, just like how the Warlord will survive the headbutt nerf.
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  9. #59
    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    Those are parts of overall effective tool sets. Unsure what to say about the Warden's vortex; I don't get hammered by it too often. As for the Shug's Oni Charge, something clearly needs to happen (read somewhere that the dev's intend on it). But, the Shugoki will survive it, just like how the Warlord will survive the headbutt nerf.
    They just need to get rid of the 50/50 element of the Warden's vortex and all is fine. Otherwise, the offense vs defense meta is a bigger problem that needs looking at.
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