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    Two-shotted by Revenge even with Defence Boost

    Okay I know, Revenge is God mode, don't gank people, Git Gud, yada yada, thank you ....

    This was in Skirmish so it was a mess, 3 vs 3, team mates dying, so I can't just watch ... and I tried to pick the one that was on the edge of combat and least likely to gain Revenge. Anyway, 2 light attacks later, this Zerker has Revenge and I was instantly 2 shotted from full health with a full yellow shield bar from a Defence boost.

    2 hits of 47 according to the Combat Log.
    So I have 94 health with a Shield boost?

    I know Nobushi is a bit fragile but really? Is that working as intended?

    It's getting so you can't risk engaging anyone in a fight ...
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Okay I know, Revenge is God mode, don't gank people, Git Gud, yada yada, thank you ....

    This was in Skirmish so it was a mess, 3 vs 3, team mates dying, so I can't just watch ... and I tried to pick the one that was on the edge of combat and least likely to gain Revenge. Anyway, 2 light attacks later, this Zerker has Revenge and I was instantly 2 shotted from full health with a full yellow shield bar from a Defence boost.

    2 hits of 47 according to the Combat Log.
    So I have 94 health with a Shield boost?

    I know Nobushi is a bit fragile but really? Is that working as intended?

    It's getting so you can't risk engaging anyone in a fight ...
    What attacks were they. I know you said it was 47 (it could have been glitches?), but if he did a side light and then top heavy when you was on the floor that would definitely be the reason, as without revenge that combo does 4 bars of damage.
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    Nobushi has 120 HP. Not sure how you got 2 shot then, especially with a defence boost. Even without it you should have survived assuming that you were at full health.
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    Originally Posted by Gray360UK Go to original post
    Okay I know, Revenge is God mode, don't gank people, Git Gud, yada yada, thank you ....

    This was in Skirmish so it was a mess, 3 vs 3, team mates dying, so I can't just watch ... and I tried to pick the one that was on the edge of combat and least likely to gain Revenge. Anyway, 2 light attacks later, this Zerker has Revenge and I was instantly 2 shotted from full health with a full yellow shield bar from a Defence boost.

    2 hits of 47 according to the Combat Log.
    So I have 94 health with a Shield boost?

    I know Nobushi is a bit fragile but really? Is that working as intended?

    It's getting so you can't risk engaging anyone in a fight ...
    revenge mode is so broken i Nobushi main and i can 2 shot people with heavy attacks in revenge mode and also win most 1v3 as much as i love ****ing people over with it its way too OP atm i think.
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    Originally Posted by PackingMoney Go to original post
    What attacks were they. I know you said it was 47 (it could have been glitches?), but if he did a side light and then top heavy when you was on the floor that would definitely be the reason, as without revenge that combo does 4 bars of damage.
    Guess that was it then.
    The attacks were Left Heavy followed by Top Heavy, both for 47 according to the log. That just doesn't seem like enough damage to remove all of my health and all of a shield boost?

    I dunno, have a hard time fitting that into my usual definition of fun / skilled combat. Two taps from me and the next thing I know I'm waking up in Samurai heaven. I'm not sure how you're supposed to find someone who isn't on the verge of going Godmode in a Skirmish match when things get messy.
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    Revenge mode is great, i love using it. When it gets used against me cause my team is dumb and 3v1 fighting, we deserve to get repeatedly ****ed. If I see revenge, i just flip away till it goes away and force them to be aggressive. Revenge is the anti-gank. Revenge sucks when people just flip away from ya lol, just most people are dumb and keep fighting you.
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    Originally Posted by LickMyLemons257 Go to original post
    revenge mode is so broken i Nobushi main and i can 2 shot people with heavy attacks in revenge mode and also win most 1v3 as much as i love ****ing people over with it its way too OP atm i think.
    I don't mind people getting it under certain circumstances, but there's modes like Skirmish (playing it to complete an Order) where your chances of finding someone to hit who isn't going to get Revenge almost instantly are about 10%, the other 90% of the time you're screwed for making the mistake of trying to fight someone. Ironically it makes you look for the fabled 'honourable' 1 vs 1 duel, even in a 4 vs 4 mode, because anything else just becomes the battle of the Revenges.
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    Originally Posted by jacoblwade127 Go to original post
    Revenge mode is great, i love using it. When it gets used against me cause my team is dumb and 3v1 fighting, we deserve to get repeatedly ****ed. If I see revenge, i just flip away till it goes away and force them to be aggressive. Revenge is the anti-gank. Revenge sucks when people just flip away from ya lol, just most people are dumb and keep fighting you.
    See this was in a 3 vs 3 mess in the middle of the map in Skirmish. Now I can either stand back and watch, leaving team mates to die, or try to engage someone. When you're then 2 shotted on the floor before you can stand up ... in that situation it's not really anti-gank. If I knew that zerker was 2 light attacks away from Revenge I wouldn't have touched her, or if I knew two heavy attacks from her would kill me even with a shield boost before I could stand up, lol
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    Three in three so you join for 4 v3 and got your self killed also probably screwed up one of your teams moves but anyways you could have looked for the 4th
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    A berserker has 2 attack buffs as feats (lv3&4). If he had those active, revenge, and an attack boost... well he would have likely one shot you.
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