Revenge mode in 1v1 : what's the problem ? | Forums

[Peligrad]

You do realize that I clearly stated first "REVENGE BUILDING IS NOT EQUAL FOR ALL CHARACTERS".

As in, even without feats or gear, assassins gain more revenge per block than characters who have set guards. So assassins will gain revenge in less blocked attacks than other classes.

I didn't think I had to spell it out for you, but I clearly over-estimated your intelligence.

[Munktor]

You do realize that I clearly stated first "REVENGE BUILDING IS NOT EQUAL FOR ALL CHARACTERS".

As in, even without feats or gear, assassins gain more revenge per block than characters who have set guards. So assassins will gain revenge in less blocked attacks than other classes.

I didn't think I had to spell it out for you, but I clearly over-estimated your intelligence.

So you decided to change the original statement made that you argued was incorrect.

I stated both PLAYERS

[Knight_Raime]

So you decided to change the original statement made that you argued was incorrect.

I stated both PLAYERS

Don't bother with him. he's literally a jerk to anyone who doesn't agree with him.

[Peligrad]

So you decided to change the original statement made that you argued was incorrect.

I stated both PLAYERS

Wow...

Can you not read?

My original point, which I did not change or alter in any way was this:

All characters do not generate revenge at the same rate.

ADDITIONALLY!!!!!!! So now I'm building on that first point...

(In game modes where feats and gear score are active)

The characters that already build revenge faster inherently also have a feat which allow them to build revenge even faster.

ADDITIONALLY!!!! So now I have another separate point, hope you are still with me, having a high gear score and focusing on revenge generation means you will further increase your already large advantage in revenge generation.

Did you follow me that time? Did you realize that you can actually make ONE forum post that has MULTIPLE points in it?

There's all kinds of crazy $hit you can do with language if you are smarter than the chair you are sitting on.

Edit: Also, Knight_Raime, if you are going to call someone a "literally a jerk" you might want know what the definition of a jerk is.

By definition, I am clearly not a jerk.

[Munktor]

Wow...

Can you not read?

My original point, which I did not change or alter in any way was this:

All characters do not generate revenge at the same rate.

ADDITIONALLY!!!!!!! So now I'm building on that first point...

The characters that already build revenge faster inherently also have a feat which allow them to build revenge even faster.

ADDITIONALLY!!!! So now I have another separate point, hope you are still with me, having a high gear score and focusing on revenge generation means you will further increase your already large advantage in revenge generation.

Did you follow me that time? Did you realize that you can actually make ONE forum post that has MULTIPLE points in it?

There's all kinds of crazy $hit you can do with language if you are smarter than the chair you are sitting on.

Right...but my original statement was, "both players have the same chance to accrue revenge".

That is NOT an incorrect statement. You say it WAS an incorrect statement, and also deigned to call me a moron earlier for having an opinion that you disagree with.

You wanted to get into semantics, and you lost.

We're talking specifically 1v1 duels, so feats and gear have no place in the discussion.

Secondly, we were talking PLAYERS, not characters, so your entire point is moot as it has no place in this discussion.

I don't need to follow you, because you're clearly going the wrong way, as I was never incorrect in my statement to begin with (the entire premise of this current argument).

*EDIT* I'll provide the example below:

Munkt0r said:
Why? Both players have equal chance to accrue revenge within a 1v1 duel. It's only an issue in the 4v4 modes with revenge gain gear.



Peligrad Said:

Incorrect.Revenge building is not equal for all characters

[Peligrad]

Wow... it's like trying to argue with a Furby...

What part of revenge generation is not equal on all heroes don't you understand?

Are you really attempting to say that because we all have access to the same hero pool that it is ultimately the players fault for choosing a character that inherently has worse revenge generation?

Because that argument is truly worth a facepalm.

Maybe if there revenge generation mechanics were plainly displayed as a stat somewhere on the hero sheet, you could maybe claim this...

But it is not. There isn't even published information out there about revenge generation stats by third parties available as far as I know.

To claim that it is the player's fault that Ubisoft is a garbage company that can't balance... it's just daft.

Wait do you work for them? Because as stupid as you are, that would explain a lot...

[Munktor]

Wow... it's like trying to argue with a Furby...

What part of revenge generation is not equal on all heroes don't you understand?

What part of the words "players & characters/heroes" being different are you not understanding?

I never said it was equal across all heroes, I said both players have the same chance.

There are pros/cons to every hero, but all heroes can be chosen by any player.

When discussing 1v1 duel, there is no inherent advantage. In 4v4, two orochis can have two different revenge gains, based on gear/feats from time invested. That's where the disparity between players comes into play.

I even put the exact statements from the first page in my previous post clearly showing we're talking two separate things - but you CONTINUE to try and circle around it and ignore the obvious evidence that you misspoke.

An adult would've said, "oh, you're right - both players do have equal chance...but I still think the disparity between heroes revenge gain is an issue".

That's completely understandable. I don't agree personally, but it's a fair statement.

Unfortunately, you're too immature to do so and would rather continue to argue that I was incorrect initially...which is clear I was not.

[Peligrad]

What part of the words "players & characters/heroes" being different are you not understanding?

I never said it was equal across all heroes, I said both players have the same chance.

There are pros/cons to every hero, but all heroes can be chosen by any player.

When discussing 1v1 duel, there is no inherent advantage. In 4v4, two orochis can have two different revenge gains, based on gear/feats from time invested. That's where the disparity between players comes into play.

I even put the exact statements from the first page in my previous post clearly showing we're talking two separate things - but you CONTINUE to try and circle around it and ignore the obvious evidence that you misspoke.

An adult would've said, "oh, you're right - both players do have equal chance...but I still think the disparity between heroes revenge gain is an issue".

That's completely understandable. I don't agree personally, but it's a fair statement.

Unfortunately, you're too immature to do so and would rather continue to argue that I was incorrect initially...which is clear I was not.

Quoted for preservation.

Many years from now when the human species evolves this will be a great bench-mark to look back on and say, "Look how far we've come. How we ever survived as a species over 100,000 years being that stupid is truly a miracle of science"

[Munktor]

Have fun struggling with the game's mechanics. I'll be adding you to my ignore list now to avoid another pointless discussion.

[Peligrad]

Have fun struggling with the game's mechanics. I'll be adding you to my ignore list now to avoid another pointless discussion.

Yup... struggling...