[Broken] Conqueror gets free Guard Break off Shugoki light attack blocks | Forums

[Baine1]

So if the Conq just blocks Shugokis Heavy and Light attacks, he can get a free GB.

Seems balanced. So i guess Shugokis have to just not hit the enemy then


On a more serious note, this makes it impossible to actually fight Conquerors, since they just need to block the super slow light attacks (as fast as other classes heavy attacks). Okay if they get GB on heavies, but light attacks should always be safe from block-->GB.

[Thelafinclown]

So if the Conq just blocks Shugokis Heavy and Light attacks, he can get a free GB.

Seems balanced. So i guess Shugokis have to just not hit the enemy then


On a more serious note, this makes it impossible to actually fight Conquerors, since they just need to block the super slow light attacks (as fast as other classes heavy attacks). Okay if they get GB on heavies, but light attacks should always be safe from block-->GB.

You Can Cancel GB with the Proper timing . There are 5 possibilitys after you do that.

[Baine1]

You Can Cancel GB with the Proper timing . There are 5 possibilitys after you do that.

Okay, do you not understand the concept of confirmed GB?

It means, when he blocks my light attacks he can GB me and I cannot counter it. Thats what confirmed GB means. Thats why its broken.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

The only problem I have with this comment is the fact that you think the shugoki has slow light attacks. While he is no PK, his lights are deceptively quick.

[Baine1]

The only problem I have with this comment is the fact that you think the shugoki has slow light attacks. While he is no PK, his lights are deceptively quick.

His heavies are the slowest in game, maybe it just distorts your perspective because of that. Because his light attacks are at the long end of the spectrum when it comes to speed. Classes with faster lights: Warden, PK, Lawbringer(only top) Conq(only side), Valk,Warlord (only his sides) Berzerker(only sides), Orochi(only top), Nobushi(only sides).

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

His heavies are the slowest in game, maybe it just distorts your perspective because of that. Because his light attacks are at the long end of the spectrum when it comes to speed. Classes with faster lights: Warden, PK, Lawbringer(only top) Conq(only side), Valk,Warlord (only his sides) Berzerker(only sides), Orochi(only top), Nobushi(only sides).

Do you have any data to prove this? While there are faster characters of course, his lights feel quicker than a wardens side light, I can parry those with ease, however shugoki feels just a little bit faster than that. Many other characters you named are side specific in their speed, Shugoki seems to have fast lights all around, but of course, not the fastest.

[Baine1]

Do you have any data to prove this? While there are faster characters of course, his lights feel quicker than a wardens side light, I can parry those with ease, however shugoki feels just a little bit faster than that. Many other characters you named are side specific in their speed, Shugoki seems to have fast lights all around, but of course, not the fastest.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...fPw/edit#gid=0

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...fPw/edit#gid=0

This doesn't help that much as most of the data for the Shugoki is missing

[Baine1]

This doesn't help that much as most of the data for the Shugoki is missing

You just dont know how to read it. It is not missing, but those attacks dont exist, he doesnt have light into light combos, tahts why it only shows Side 1/Top 1 etc. If its grey, it means he doesnt have that.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

You just dont know how to read it. It is not missing, but those attacks dont exist, he doesnt have light into light combos, tahts why it only shows Side 1/Top 1 etc. If its grey, it means he doesnt have that.

Thank you for the clarification.