Complaint thread about being a Conqueror | Forums

[lionardudu]

Doesn't matter if he dodges shield bash, it can't be punished. Only a complete fool would throw out a raw heavy against a good opponent.

Top level conq vs warlord matchup is just two walls staring at each other hoping to get in a stray light attack or shield bash. The warlord has all the work to do since the conqueror doesn't need to focus on anything except blocking and using the appropriate tech on headbutt. His hopes are basically pinned on trying to throw out a light attack as you dodge, and in the correct direction.

Yep and ? If warlord dont take SB dont take damage... so if he focus on defence is a tie XD

And that only to Parry/gb mechanincs... if they change that they can attack better...

[lionardudu]

I just want to say that the Conqueror can indeed Parry while charging the heavy attack. Just release the heavy attack when you would normally do a parry. It will parry the attack and immediately perform a counter-attack. Cool stuff. You can do the same thing with regular heavies, but the timing is different and not really consistent IMHO.

its not a parry its only superior block on heavy strike start ...

[Aidames]

My bad then, I thought it counted as a parry.

[PanzerShrekonin]

I really do not see how conq is considered good. Our heavies are always parried and our lights hit like wet noodles.

[Zakmuffin]

Funny thing about the charges. You can Gb while charging...but can't tech. Makes no sense to me.

Wut? Since when? I've had this convo before with a conq main, then they tested it and told me you can GBC while charging. This was during open beta so Idk if it's changed since then, but it wasn't announced.

[Aarpian]

I really do not see how conq is considered good. Our heavies are always parried and our lights hit like wet noodles.

Stop throwing out raw lights and heavies then. I use them exceedingly sparingly. You almost never want to throw out raws when you can just shield bash instead.

Conq is considered good because of shield bash and his ability to escape unblockable vortexes from other characters like Warlord and Warden.

[PanzerShrekonin]

Stop throwing out raw lights and heavies then. I use them exceedingly sparingly. You almost never want to throw out raws when you can just shield bash instead.

Conq is considered good because of shield bash and his ability to escape unblockable vortexes from other characters like Warlord and Warden.

Lol... side step OP.


Conq is only good to people who cant side step or get themselves trapped in a corner. Just side step their sheild bash and they got nothing going for them.

[Aarpian]

Lol... side step OP.


Conq is only good to people who cant side step or get themselves trapped in a corner. Just side step their sheild bash and they got nothing going for them.

Dodging attacks renders them ineffective. A shocking revelation.

Good to know that all the people I've ever knocked out of tournaments can't sidestep. I guess only Petemoo, Kingrichard and CuteAnimeGirl are capable of such basic mechanics.

[PanzerShrekonin]

Dodging attacks renders them ineffective. A shocking revelation.

Good to know that all the people I've ever knocked out of tournaments can't sidestep. I guess only Petemoo, Kingrichard and CuteAnimeGirl are capable of such basic mechanics.

Dont know who either of them are nor do I care.

[Peligrad]

Dodging attacks renders them ineffective. A shocking revelation.

Good to know that all the people I've ever knocked out of tournaments can't sidestep. I guess only Petemoo, Kingrichard and CuteAnimeGirl are capable of such basic mechanics.

I get what you're saying... but you've got to admit that as players continue to get wise to the conq's very limited bag of tricks, that it's harder and harder to reliably land damage on opponents as the conq.

Conq's inability to land raw attacks (due to all his attacks being slow) or condition his opponent with feints (since he can't feint) make him so one dimensional.

Which makes it pretty hard to be successful with him compared to say Warlord which does everything the conq can do but also has the ability to feint, has a great zone, and has hyper armor during heavy attacks.

Not to mention that the warlord (and nearly every other character) wins off a parry or GB when his opponent is at regen limit health while the conq does not.

As players get better, the conq just seems to lose more and more luster when compared to Warlord and PK.